Textpattern CMS support forum
You are not logged in. Register | Login | Help
- Topics: Active | Unanswered
#181 2005-07-20 19:08:02
Re: TXP Template Contest : Starting a Pledge ! Will you sign up ?
Any suggestions on how to judge it?
Proof that any idiot can have a website: www.vacantcanvas.com
Offline
#182 2005-07-20 19:15:48
- alexandra
- Member

- From: Cologne, Germany
- Registered: 2004-04-02
- Posts: 1,370
Re: TXP Template Contest : Starting a Pledge ! Will you sign up ?
Joey, you can not really judge Usab., that would somehow be unprofessional …but we can ask Jeremie as well… see what he thinks
Offline
#183 2005-07-20 19:19:51
- Joey
- Member
- From: Netherlands
- Registered: 2005-01-19
- Posts: 257
Re: TXP Template Contest : Starting a Pledge ! Will you sign up ?
Hmm okay. I can’t also find any good guidelines or something… maybe you’re right.
Regards,
Joey
Offline
#184 2005-07-20 19:31:09
- alexandra
- Member

- From: Cologne, Germany
- Registered: 2004-04-02
- Posts: 1,370
Re: TXP Template Contest : Starting a Pledge ! Will you sign up ?
Okay, picking up Jeffs original suggestion, we are here now:
A 50/40 split of 90 points:
Design (50) split up:
Composition:10
Color scheme: 10
Typography: 10
Originality: 20
Code (40) split up:
Validation (required??): 20
Accessibility: 20
Usability (what is this? Readability?): 10
Last edited by alexandra (2005-07-20 19:31:37)
Offline
#185 2005-07-20 19:33:29
Re: TXP Template Contest : Starting a Pledge ! Will you sign up ?
Well that’s just awkward. Let’s add 10 points to code for “unique application of Textpattern features”.
Proof that any idiot can have a website: www.vacantcanvas.com
Offline
#186 2005-07-20 19:47:47
- alexandra
- Member

- From: Cologne, Germany
- Registered: 2004-04-02
- Posts: 1,370
Re: TXP Template Contest : Starting a Pledge ! Will you sign up ?
“unique application of Textpattern features”
for example?
(keep in mind, plugins are not allowed.)
Offline
#187 2005-07-20 19:51:49
Re: TXP Template Contest : Starting a Pledge ! Will you sign up ?
First off thank you for making plugins inelligible. That makes me very happy.
I’m thinking using Txp in non-blog ways. Making a blog site can be fairly easy and could make judging a little harder. We should reward those that can pull off a non-blog site using TXP. That would also add a better variety of designs to the mix.
Like, oh I don’t know, www.stephenjoneslaw.com :-)
Proof that any idiot can have a website: www.vacantcanvas.com
Offline
#188 2005-07-20 20:05:39
- alexandra
- Member

- From: Cologne, Germany
- Registered: 2004-04-02
- Posts: 1,370
Re: TXP Template Contest : Starting a Pledge ! Will you sign up ?
Hi Jeff, it´s not me “making plugins inelligible”. :)
DavidM started setting up or gathering the Contest Rules in his WIKI.
The templates shall work out of the box , plugins are not scheduled.
Concerning the point: “unique application of Textpattern features” – would be nice to hear what other people think. about judging it the way you suggest.
(www.stephenjoneslaw.com is really nice, did you increase line-height by now ;))
Last edited by alexandra (2005-07-20 20:07:09)
Offline
#189 2005-08-02 21:33:42
- Mary
- Sock Enthusiast
- Registered: 2004-06-27
- Posts: 6,236
Re: TXP Template Contest : Starting a Pledge ! Will you sign up ?
Poke. Poke.
Poke.
Offline
#190 2005-08-02 21:47:16
Re: TXP Template Contest : Starting a Pledge ! Will you sign up ?
Mary is that theme installer downloadable? I’d like to give it a work-out.
Stuart
In a Time of Universal Deceit
Telling the Truth is Revolutionary.
Offline
#191 2005-08-02 22:06:03
- Mary
- Sock Enthusiast
- Registered: 2004-06-27
- Posts: 6,236
Re: TXP Template Contest : Starting a Pledge ! Will you sign up ?
‘fraid not, its just up so you can see how it would work. It doesn’t do much, but it has basic functions. The theme install creator part is almost complete, while the other just shows what would happen on the database side when it got installed. Try it out, see what you think. You can’t ‘break’ it, and it will actually ‘do’ something. :)
Now, if you’re programming-inclined, this illustrates that you can already distribute themes.
I’d like to see something just like the plugins tab, with an install, restore, link-back to the author. Help too, in case the theme also includes images or extra files, to explain what needs doing.
As I understand it, that’s along the lines of what Dean plans, but I don’t know any specifics. I’m a little wary because of this, that I might take a different track than he’d like to proceed (making my work useless).
Offline
#192 2005-08-02 22:13:13
- alexandra
- Member

- From: Cologne, Germany
- Registered: 2004-04-02
- Posts: 1,370
Re: TXP Template Contest : Starting a Pledge ! Will you sign up ?
> mary wrote:
As I understand it, that’s along the lines of what Dean plans, but I don’t know any specifics. I’m a little wary because of this, that I might take a different track than he’d like to proceed (making my work useless).
hi mary, just ask Dean. If you do not get him “on the phone” :) ask Sencer. Sencer is usually very kind and helpfull.
Offline
#193 2005-08-02 22:17:24
- marios
- Archived Plugin Author

- Registered: 2005-03-12
- Posts: 1,253
Re: TXP Template Contest : Starting a Pledge ! Will you sign up ?
hi mary, just ask Dean. If you do not get him “on the phone” :) ask Sencer. Sencer is usually very kind and helpfull.
Yes he is, there is no doubt about it.
regards, marios
Last edited by marios (2005-08-02 22:17:54)
⌃ ⇧ < ⎋ ⌃ ⇧ >
Offline
#194 2005-08-02 23:29:30
Re: TXP Template Contest : Starting a Pledge ! Will you sign up ?
Really I just wanted to see what the output from the theme creator side was like. I have looked through the various bits of code, not that I’m a coder or anything, but I suspect what you suggest about a tab in admin would be needed. It would have to be in a “fixed” place whoever installed it. And the “theme” file would have to be uploaded to a specific place as well I suspect so that the installer script could “find” it or are you meant to drop the theme file into the box or something. Then I presume some kind of connection to maybe config.php to pick up the database details which would be needed to write to it. Can all this stuff be wrapped up into an admin-side plug-in?
I then have to ask “Is it worth all the effort?” This would still only allow you to install a single “theme” though it would obviously make it a lot easier for newcomers. On the other hand installing one of my “Systems” manually as they currently exist makes newcomers aware of how parts of TXP work. I’m in two minds about it now. :)
Stuart
In a Time of Universal Deceit
Telling the Truth is Revolutionary.
Offline
#195 2005-08-02 23:43:46
- Mary
- Sock Enthusiast
- Registered: 2004-06-27
- Posts: 6,236
Re: TXP Template Contest : Starting a Pledge ! Will you sign up ?
“…or are you meant to drop the theme file into the box or something…”
Yes, just like plugin install.
“…Then I presume some kind of connection to maybe config.php to pick up the database details which would be needed to write to it…”
Nope, because of…
“…Can all this stuff be wrapped up into an admin-side plug-in?…”
Yes, that’d be the idea.
“…This would still only allow you to install a single ‘theme’…”
Well, there are two ways to go about it.
- Designer uses the one to create the paste string – just like plugins. The user installs the other to allow theme install, then picks a theme and installs it. Later, they could install another through it just as easily, if not more so because they already have the theme installer available.
- Create your own standalone theme plugin as you describe. The possible benefit of this one would be you could integrate a “restore” function, etc.
That’s part of the wait too: if Textpattern supports this itself, it’ll mean it would earn its own database table, which really increases the possibilities.
Last edited by Mary (2005-08-02 23:44:33)
Offline