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#31 2019-12-24 15:26:43

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Re: Feedback to: Textpattern CMS 4.8.0-beta released

with the name attribute, all is working just fine.


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#32 2019-12-24 22:06:35

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Re: Feedback to: Textpattern CMS 4.8.0-beta released

Yes adding the name attribute makes all working fine. I didn’t know you had changed that.

And OK I see you reverted that requirement. That is probably better for backwards compatibility. I’ll still make it a habit to add the name attribute.


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#33 2019-12-24 23:09:19

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Re: Feedback to: Textpattern CMS 4.8.0-beta released

colak wrote #320694:

with the name attribute, all is working just fine.

True, just use the name attribute that is working. It would be interesting to update the Textpattern documentation header, using examples with the name attribute(since without it does not work). Just a suggestion.

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#34 2019-12-25 07:20:46

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Bloke wrote #320690:

True at the moment. But see this thread on article snippets for a possible future in which sections may be themeless. Then marking them up this way makes sense.

But if we decide not to pursue this way of working then maybe yes we could hide the pills and (perhaps) link. Will give it some thought.

I’ve now read partly through that thread, with some difficult but interesting concepts. In case you do introduce and use themeless sections, then yes, it probably makes sense, given how it now works, to keep the link (assign sections) next to the theme name. Not sure I fully understand those themeless sections ATM, but will keep reading.

The “pill” note (“in use”) might still be redundant, though ?


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#35 2019-12-25 14:24:36

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phiw13 wrote #320701:

Not sure I fully understand those themeless sections ATM, but will keep reading.

Nothing’s decided yet but it’s just a notion whereby you could house unpublished content that you can call into other articles. Such sections could act as silos for content snippets – events, profiles, whatever – that you don’t have to relegate to forms (which are presentation not content) nor have to risk having a discoverable URL.

If a section has no theme, it has no output, therefore the content wouldn’t appear on your site or navigation unless you explicitly ask your templates to grab it as part of other articles in other sections.

The “pill” note (“in use”) might still be redundant, though ?

Yes. We could perhaps hide this if there’s only one theme installed.


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#36 2019-12-25 15:56:27

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Bloke wrote #320707:

We could perhaps hide this [in-use pill] if there’s only one theme installed.

Done.


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#37 2019-12-26 06:48:38

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Bloke wrote #320711:

Done.

Cool, thanks!


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#38 2020-01-06 07:13:52

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Re: Feedback to: Textpattern CMS 4.8.0-beta released

In case nobody saw it.

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#39 2020-01-06 07:41:49

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Destry wrote #320859:

In case nobody saw it.

Hmm, why do you think the Theme edit panel deserves a special treatment – making the Title required? The title field (the display name) is not required for Sections, Author, Categories, Links, do I forget one ? Just curious.

If omitted, the value in the name field is used.


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#40 2020-01-06 08:37:35

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phiw13 wrote #320860:

why do you think the Theme edit panel deserves a special treatment – making the Title required?

I don’t know WTF you’re even talking about. The help tip says it’s ‘required’. If that’s wrong then somebody should at least change the help tip. I’m just reporting the confusing inconsistencies, not railroading something through.

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#41 2020-01-06 08:46:10

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Sorry to be snippy. I’m trying to get the Themes doc finished (among many others), which I’ve been working on for over a month now because nobody can decide what/how UI features should be designed, and so I have to keep changing descriptions and images. Give an editor a break.

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#42 2020-01-06 08:57:11

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Destry wrote #320862:

[…] The help tip says it’s ‘required’. If that’s wrong then somebody should at least change the help tip.

I don’t mean “you” as “you, Destry” but as generic ‘you’. This helptip is inconsistent or even incorrect, compared to all the other similar items.


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#43 2020-01-06 09:16:23

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Sorry Destry, the pophelp topic is half wrong: it’s not user required per se but Textpattern requires it internally. The title is auto-created if you don’t supply one, based on the name. If you blank it out, it will be recreated from the name by transforming it to sentence case (ymmv in other languages, never tried).

We could probably drop the ‘(required)’ in the pophelp if you think it causes confusion with the field itself not stating it’s Required.


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#44 2020-01-06 10:27:26

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Re: Feedback to: Textpattern CMS 4.8.0-beta released

Bloke wrote #320866:

We could probably drop the ‘(required)’ in the pophelp if you think it causes confusion with the field itself not stating it’s Required.

It should be dropped me thinks, if is not user required. The pop help is only for the end user, not to tell the TXP engine what to do.


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#45 2020-01-06 12:21:48

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phiw13 wrote #320864:

I don’t mean “you” as “you, Destry” but as generic ‘you’.

Got ya. Cool.

Bloke wrote #320866:

Sorry Destry

No apology necessary. I misunderstood Phi, who is generally direct in his statements anyway. I always have to step back and think about them before responding. This one got the better of me. ;)

That I received an unwarranted rant/attack (unrelated subject) from someone in the fediverse today, probably didn’t help with my defenses being up.

I know these things take time to iron out, patience is a virtue, etc. And I don’t help with all my useless input on design/dev ideas.

This 2020 has me in a ‘get it done and over’ mood, I guess.

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