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#16 2005-11-22 20:25:22

minusf
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Re: Databases: to Postgres

This guy has some rude things to say about textpattern’s coding but

i haven’t looked at the code too much yet, but the bit about documentation is (sad but) true.
especially for someone coming from openbsd where documentation is maybe better than
the actual system. but just as they say on the openbsd mailing list: if you just shout about it,
but do nothing, just shut up. so for now, i just shut up.


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#17 2005-11-22 20:28:44

Etz Haim
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Re: Databases: to Postgres

There’s the crockery development branch, which includes experimental Postgres support, among others. The guy’s review of Textpattern is very unsophisticated, to say the least.

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#18 2005-11-22 21:16:07

beniji
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Re: Databases: to Postgres

ok thanks for the info. I will be happier to recommend Textpattern to my colleagues when it has Postgres support.

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#19 2005-11-22 22:28:34

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Re: Databases: to Postgres

He obviously hasn’t found TextBook or SVN so his review is restricted. His point about empty or near-useless help pop-ups is a good one though. I don’t need them myself but I think it looks bad. This is something that needs catching-up on.


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#20 2005-11-23 00:48:47

Mary
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Re: Databases: to Postgres

“He obviously hasn’t found TextBook…”

Hasn’t found the forum either. Or even… say… oh, I don’t know… asked?

My favourite: calling Textpattern’s code “..so ugly you would throw up if you had to look at it more than fife minutes.” sic

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#21 2005-11-23 04:04:47

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Re: Databases: to Postgres

A bit of a weird after-thought methinks.


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#22 2005-11-23 08:12:03

minusf
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Re: Databases: to Postgres

the forum is nice but i agree with the man that it is not a good
replacement for documentation. the same questions are asked
again and again, the forum db is getting bigger and more bloated,
by the day, making it harder to search.

what’s easier? reading the docs or wander around the forum for
3h to finally find the hidden piece of information?

good documentation would save a lot of forum bandwith.

texbook is nice, but far from being mature. and it’s not part of
txp, is it?

sorry for getting offtopic, but don’t downplay the importance of
good documentation.


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#23 2005-11-23 10:45:48

zem
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Re: Databases: to Postgres

sorry for getting offtopic, but don’t downplay the importance of good documentation.

Ah, another enthusiastic volunteer.


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#24 2005-11-23 10:52:09

minusf
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Re: Databases: to Postgres

Ah, another enthusiastic volunteer.

hint taken. i come from openbsd, so don’t worry, i know when to shut up :-)

just started using txp not that long ago, give me some time to fit in the lifestyle ;-)

but you know, sending patches is easy, either it’s good, gets in, it’s bad,
goes to /dev/null. but documentation, that’s an entirely different
animal.. fighting over silly words and constructions, etc.

but my biggest concern at the moment is textile, which is far from being
documented well, and not very good either (sad but true: try putting images
into a table for example) so that’s my first target to make better.


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#25 2005-11-23 12:02:14

thebombsite
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Re: Databases: to Postgres

TextBook is official and hosted at TextDrive as is TextGarden and The Resource Centre. As someone who has been helping out on the forum for some while now I have to say that since TXP 4* was released enquiries here have dropped off quite dramatically. Most of the questions are more to do with HTML and CSS than anything else and they have nothing to do with TXP. Plus there are problems with servers and hosts which again have nothing to do with TXP. Of course, we try and answer them because we are helpful like that.

Those questions which are to do with TXP tend to be someone trying to do something a bit extraordinary or trying to do something that TXP just doesn’t do – yet. Again we try to help.

Quite frankly, if someone is going to write an article like that, it might be helpful if they took their blindfold off first! I wouldn’t mind if the facts were straight but he’s made no effort to find things for himself which is becoming somewhat typical these days. And yes, I’m pissed off!

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#26 2005-11-23 20:29:19

zem
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Re: Databases: to Postgres

but my biggest concern at the moment is textile, which is far from being
documented well, and not very good either (sad but true: try putting images
into a table for example) so that’s my first target to make better.

We’re testing some new changes here. Bug reports help.


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#27 2006-10-18 22:02:19

minusf
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Re: Databases: to Postgres

this just came in.

of course i am not talking about replacing mysql…
just a small little dropdown on the install page
db: mysql or postgres (and sqlite) :)

i know it’s just talk so far, but supporting postgres would be just as good
as moving to the BSD license.

i will look into this shortly, i am starting some new sites anyway.


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