suggestion: new "Built-in TXP tags" forum category

kees-b · 2005-10-28 08:28:32

All translators know this strange word: Tagalog. It’s in the txp language files but not used in the interface. I allways interpreted it as an upcoming feature: a catalog of tags within the admin (help) interface. Dean and the team, am I wrong?

Destry · 2005-10-28 10:24:39

I’ve responded to some ideas brought up in this thread, but it got sidetracked to a bigger TextBook issue, so I’ve taken to the top level, here

In any case, I think the new Tag forum is great, and I like the idea of having community moderators; makes me think we should have more of them for other fora.

@mary: thanks for the consideration as a moderator, but I think maniqui and Rick are perfect for the job. I still indirectly serve as a voice/action between the forum and the wiki (for the time being), which most folks probably recognize.

rui · 2005-10-28 14:24:32

> kees-b wrote:

> All translators know this strange word: Tagalog. It’s in the txp language files but not used in the interface. I allways interpreted it as an upcoming feature: a catalog of tags within the admin (help) interface. Dean and the team, am I wrong?

It’s funny that the meaning of the word “Tagalog” was interpreted by me the same way. And I’m also one of the translators…

When is this “catalog of tags within the admin (help) interface” feature coming? ;-)

rui

Sencer · 2005-10-28 14:38:47

I’m afraid we’ll have to disappoint you, as a code snippet from the update script will surely convince you:

<code> case ‘spanish’: $rs = safe_update(“txp_prefs”, “val= ‘es-es’”, “name=‘language’ AND val= ‘spanish’”); break; case ‘swedish’: $rs = safe_update(“txp_prefs”, “val= ‘sv-sv’”, “name=‘language’ AND val= ‘swedish’”); break; case ‘tagalog’: $rs = safe_update(“txp_prefs”, “val= ‘tl-tl’”, “name=‘language’ AND val= ‘tagalog’”);

</code>
.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tagalog_language

maniqui · 2005-10-28 16:06:12

I noticed that last night, where I was about to go to sleep. , that I have beeing blessed by mary. Thanks, mary.
Thanks for frightened me!
Until this “morning” (12am) when I wake up and read your blessing e-mail that makes me feel better. :D
It’s an honour for me to help in this forum, and I’m glad of TXP community. I will do my best effort.

Well, going back to topic.

First: I noticed that the new forum goes slightly different in its implementation in relation of what I thought in the first post. <ol> <li>it is more widely-open to participation, and as said before, it’s more exposed to OT threads that belong to other forums.</li> <li>wont be made by sticky-thread-per-built-in-tag, as I suggested. (I can live with that). But I will create some posts named with txp-tags and use the “template” I suggested above, to see what happens, what is the “reaction” to this kind of posts</li> <li>related to the above item: I know a thread-per-tag was an illusion, because tags arent usually for stand-alone use, but to be used in conjunction with other tags. So, it’s “difficult” to know to wich thread-tag an example snippet belongs. But I dont think that is a real problem, and can be easily seen as an advantage for understanding how to use tags together and to easily catch the logic behind TXP.</li> </ol>

Now, some quotes for the <a href=“http://forum.textpattern.com/viewtopic.php?id=12295”>inaugural post</a> of <a href=http://forum.textpattern.com/viewforum.php?id=27”>Tag Examples</a>:

<blockquote>leave out plugin tags, the purpose is to increase knowledge on how to use the powerful tags available by default</blockquote>
Is this a golden rule?

“Tag examples” will frequently have example snippets, and in snippets, the use of a bult-in tag can involve the use of a plug-in tag as an auxiliary tag.

To illustrate this: <a href=“http://forum.textpattern.com/viewtopic.php?id=12285”>tip: Using HTML tags in article/section/category titles and stripping the tags from <code><title></title></code></a>.
Ok, that tip suggests the use of two plug-ins (ob1_title and sab_striphtml), but the tip can also be performed with a built-in txp tag (txp:page_title) and the sab_striphtml plug-in.

Therefore, this tip can be at “Tag example” to show how to improve <code>txp:page_title</code> and get better results if HTML tags (like acronym) are being used in article/section/category titles.

What do you think?

Last edited by maniqui (2005-10-28 16:17:28)

rui · 2005-10-28 16:50:11

> Sencer wrote:

> I’m afraid we’ll have to disappoint you, as a code snippet from the update script will surely convince you…

Ok! I’m convinced now that Tagalog IS a real language and wikipedia.org is our friend.
And what about that “catalog of tags within the admin (help) interface” feature? So many tags to remember!

rui

maniqui · 2005-10-28 20:15:08

Finally, I <del><a href=“http://forum.textpattern.com/viewtopic.php?pid=83308#p83308”>posted the first thread-per-tag</a></del><ins>deleted my first post</ins> in the new “Tag Examples” forum.

<ins>I have deleted it because I went wrong with my post (see below), and also to test the flavor of the Delete button</ins>

As time passes, I hope to see a thread for each tag :D.
Dont be frightened by this first one, because it is about txp:article_custom, and may be one of tags with most information out there.
I have started with txp:article_custom because I think it was easy for defining some kind ot “template”.
Other tags will not require so much information. Just an introduction, links to documentation, and then let the community do the effort.

I would like to here some feedback, especially from Destry and rsilletti.
Do you think it is “overloaded”?
Should the information under the “Tag info” heading be less?
Do you think the “template” can be improved?

Also, please, english isnt my native language, so feel free to correct anything that doesnt make sense.

It think the “template” it is easy to update.
BTW: I have used two floats, one to the right and one to the left, cleared both by a “hr”. Will this lead to any problem in the forum layout?

Last edited by maniqui (2005-10-29 05:30:56)

Mary · 2005-10-29 03:42:05

maniqui:

There’s nothing wrong with having structured threads, go for it! but as you mentioned, sometimes there is overlap. If we make hard and fast rules we’ll just keep scaring away people. Already with the freedom extended we’re seeing some excellent first posts, which makes me confident when I say off-topic crap won’t likely be a problem. If that time comes – let me or someone know, and we can deal with it then.

> Is this a golden rule?

I’d say general avoidance. We already have lots of examples and documentation for plugins (that’s up to each plugin author), and often people are using plugins when they already have powerful built-in plugins that can do the same, or sometimes better. See what I mean? Just use your best judgement, that statement is there to be a guide rather than a “thou shalt not”. :)

maniqui · 2005-10-29 04:29:38

Mary, your feedback and the feedback that rsilletti has sent to me have opened my eyes: I went totally wrong with my first post.

First, as I asked to rsilletti: can I delete it?
I know I can.
But of course, I dont want to abuse of my prerogatives as moderator.

I will feel much better if I delete that first post. You and rsilleti are right, it is structured. I didnt know what I was trying to achieve.
I was thinking: “it’s my first post as moderator, it should look nice and should shine in the dark.”
Ah, I feel shame and guilty, as if I have made a mistake in my first day in my new job.

Mary · 2005-10-29 04:33:41

Sure you can. Don’t feel bad at all.

maniqui · 2005-10-29 04:52:49

Now, I feel much better.

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