A Terrible Sadness

dubh · 2005-09-19 08:49:38

I’ve used one of Sivert’s early themes on my ‘blog since I switched to TextPattern in December last year. I regret now not taking the time to do then what simple courtesy demanded: a thank you.

So, thank you Sivert. Late, but no less felt.

raveoli · 2005-09-21 14:47:47

He took The Great Trip, to the land so far away, and yet so close.

Sad loss for the family and persons close to him.

It is sad, for the people close to him, that he made such a tragic decision, while suffering from mental illness.

But sometimes people are diagnosed with depression, yet they are simply just tired of living. I didn’t knew him, so I can’t say what was the case. But he returned to where he was before he was born, and he just might have missed that place terribly, subconsciously – In his heart …

My compassion for the family, and everyone else who feels an emptiness after his chosen departure.

Sorrow is natural (& needed).

They tell us that suicide is the greatest piece of cowardice… that suicide is wrong; when it is quite obvious that there is nothing in the world to which every man has a more unassailable title than to his own life and person.
Arthur Schopenhauer

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sigurdni · 2005-09-21 23:40:05

I have a strong feeling that you are right raveoli. He hasn’t gone very far. Taking the desicion to leave for good can be a short step for some, others a big one. Although he didn’t tell me, I sensed there were many sides of him who would never settle with simply earthly materiality. There were of course many things he enjoyed in life, but none of them seemed so important that he couldn’t live without them. In the end I believe the panic attacks were the most difficult thing for him to handle, which could have given him enough confirmation to conclude that this world is not the place for him. I have always observed his development into worse conditions as a development of his personality and not simply a development of some mental illness, but there came one point where he seemed to have very little control of his mental health. As any other human, he wanted to be happy, very much, and I really have many good memories, especially from our common sense of humour. Sivert was in himself an extremely good comedian. I’m sure he could have developed that into something, but as with so many things, it didn’t seem that important to him to make something big out of it. He was very pragmatic, living right here and now, and I envy him for that, so much. And when thinking about his desicion to a leave, I’m tempted to think that he didn’t make much out of that either, that it wasn’t a big step at the time he did it. But I will never know what words he would say cover it, and I will let him have that secret. But no, I don’t feel he’s very far away, although my heart aches to see him again, just once more. So is it. “So ist das Leben”.

carla · 2005-09-22 01:51:12

I am very, very sorry for this loss.

Jennifer · 2005-09-27 18:48:49

I’m so sorry to hear this. I’ve emailed back and forth with him in the past, and I thought very highly of him.

ruminator · 2005-09-28 10:43:23

I don’t know how best to do this, so I’m just going to report the terrible news that a good friend of ours, Sivert Nielsen (sivni), has passed away… After battling depression and panic disorders for many years, he committed suicide on July 16th.

I’m sitting here a little in shock. I know I’m a bit lagged because I just came across this announcment. This makes me really sad and my heart goes out to Sivni’s family and those in this community who were close to him. It is a hard thing to lose someone close and to lose them to suicide may be even more challenging.

I know a little about Sivert’s struggles, not because I knew him (which is my loss), but because I’m also a depressive. After not knowing what was wrong with me for many years, I finally talked to my doctor and started the process of treatment. I’ve talked a little about my struggles on my weblog, but not much. It never quite seemed the forum for something so personal.

Depression is a deadly disease. We can’t help Sivert now. But, if you know someone who is depressed, support them. Watch out for them, because they can’t always do it for themselves. You can trust me on this, because I know.

I could say more (a lot), but I think this isn’t the time or place. If anyone has questions about what depression feels like from the inside, let me know or we can start another thread. I wanted to get this response in here, in case anyone needs to talk to someone who understands (at least a little). But I don’t want to start a new thread here out of respect for Sivert.

To his family: I’m so sorry. Please accept what little comfort I can add with my words. May Sivert rest in peace.

-=d

jayaqt · 2005-10-04 15:15:46

this is just. shocking…

zep · 2005-10-04 21:46:33

Some time ago a woman told me: “God gives everybody just as much weight as one can bury.” I got really upset and had a terrible argument. God gives some people too much weight to carry and we cannot understand why. We can’t see any reason in this, but I am sure that people that are so desperate as to end their lives themselves are as welcome to creation as anyone dying by age. It’s us – the human beings that are left after a deed like this – that have to live with this burden. It is our job to come around.
Good bye! Fare well.

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keith · 2005-10-08 12:26:49

What sad news this is.

I was always touched by the frankness and openness with which he spoke of his illness – extraordinarily brave of him to do so – and it’d be nice to think that it helped him just a bit, to have been able to share his struggles through his blog.

My deepest sympathies to his friends and family.

thebombsite · 2005-10-16 02:11:20

I have now opened up a little something I’ve been preparing over at TextGarden.

jstubbs · 2005-10-16 08:27:36

Nice job. Why not also place all of Sivni’s templates on the front page, in whichever category they go.

thebombsite · 2005-10-16 16:17:46

Indeed. Thank you. Just trying to get evrything up-to-date. That will follow plus downloads.

Alex McKee · 2005-12-17 21:12:14

Very very late, thanks to Sivert for his wonderful templates, which I have used many times. Shocked to hear this, only found out when I looked on textgarden and saw the link “Sivert L Neilson.”

:-( Condolences to his family.

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alexandra · 2006-07-20 07:35:32

In memory of Sivert Nielsen, sekhu and me wrote an article on TXP Mag: Battling Depression …

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