TXP Template Contest : Starting a Pledge ! Will you sign up ?

thebombsite · 2005-08-03 00:01:19

Of course!! The output is going to be base64 isn’t it? Tut tut. I keep thinking in terms of “zip”. (bangs head several times on nearby wall.)

When I said a single theme I meant a single theme “at a time” unlike the multiple theme facility developed for WP. Not that I’m suggesting we want that. I would shy away from it myself. The reason I mention it is in relation to “is it worth the effort”.

Mary · 2005-08-03 23:54:12

I think so. Sure, you and I can change forms ourselves, but think of the ease of installing themes for newbs. Paste a string, your whole site changes.

Multiple themes, I dunno. That’s somewhat more difficult for a plugin, but for a built-in feature not too bad. Then again, ease: toggle a switch, and your whole site changes. I don’t know if I would ever do this, but then I just might. I could work on my site’s theme on my local dev, create an install for it – dead simple, and then make it live at a flick of a switch! That’s a very attractive possibility, as far as I am concerned.

thebombsite · 2005-08-04 00:07:16

I tend to agree with your first point. I think that would cover your second example as well though. Just paste it in and bingo. No need for multiple theme support unless you’re the type that likes to switch them around every week. :)

Mary · 2005-08-04 00:13:31

Yeah, that’s true.

marios · 2005-08-07 23:47:12

I’ve been checking David’s wikki now,seems there no changes recently.
So what I’ve been wondering about is basically three things:

1)Is the default template going to stay(RC5) as a requirement not to be modified?

2)No class hooks on the containers seems a bit silly though,especially when dealing with multiple dynamic design blocks.

3)Or how would it be at least to have 1 more level of divitis inside the main divisions allowed to get layout possibilities increased.
(Or if there are strong forces towards accessibility only trend, to have a design centered only category allowed,with the restriction may be of going one level down.)

I’d therefore be interested in opinions about updating the wiki rules, and personally would suggest that cloning of multiple design blocks(logically one level down from the main div) that would be allready there once in the markup been allowed, this would in now way complicate installation for novices provided a short explanation in the installation instructions.

with best regards, marios

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thebombsite · 2005-08-08 01:01:18

Well the first thing I would say is to wait a week for developments then hopefully we have a fixed starting point.

I’m rather taken with Mary’s nearly plug-ins. Being able to use these would mean little restriction from a template point-of-view though plug-ins would still be out methinks.

If we are going to display these on TextGarden (which is what it was set up for after all) then maybe we should use the templates as they are over there. That way a style switcher of some kind could be used.

Anyone whose design needed different templates could host it themselves and add it to TextGarden in the same way that the ones already there have been.

My own preference would be to have a template very similar to the default but with extra divs with classes/ids added to give some flexibility. It would then be handy if TextGarden used the same template.

Of course one could say that designing to the default template would bring out all the latent CSS skills none of us have. :)

I think that would be very restrictive for things like photoblog or commercial-type designs though.

jufemaiz · 2005-08-08 04:38:41

Well guys – I’m thinking of doing a photoblog template for this… (sorry about the delay but have had a tonne of uni work then other projects + a little time off).

One question: what size would people prefer to display photos on a photoblog at?

davidm · 2005-08-08 07:33:11

Hi marios,

True I have been totally out of it this past month, first because of work, and then I was on vacation in Bretagne… I just came back. As for the contest, I was under the impression that the whole thing was now handled by the textgarden.org team… is it not ?

I’ll try to come back strong but right now I find myself drowned in the huge amount of news that I skipped lately on the forum (and, also, by a lot of work which is good :-) … RC5, already ! I was still on RC3 rev 300 something…

marios · 2005-08-08 09:58:12

welcome back David, finally you’re there,I hope it was nice in the Bretagne,and you could rest some little.Many things have changed lately here, and allthough usually checking everyday:Yes I admit allso,I am loosing sight.
On the other hand a final version seems close at hand AFAIU.
Still I’m not that sure about those rules, allthough Stuarts post was quite insightfull.

With best regards, marios

Mary · 2005-08-08 18:23:48

Yeah at this point, lets wait the week for 1.0. Even though nothing should change before then, then we can say with full confidence that our layouts work in 1.0.

jufemaiz: For me, the magic size for images is about 450×300. I only like looking at larger if its supposed to be for desktop wallpaper. (Edit: ehehehehe, just realized what that sounds like…)

I need to get cracking on this.

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alexandra · 2005-08-08 18:34:59

> davidm wrote:

I was under the impression that the whole thing was now handled by the textgarden.org team… is it not ?

Hi DavidM , welcome back, we already missed you :)
well, the rules and regulations should be set up be the community here i think. The contest itself (thats how i did understand it) takes place over at textgarden.org then.

A schedule would be really nice. I did promise to care for the contest section and layout on textgarden so i would appreciate a deadline. My suggestion for the contest is sometime in October. Thats enough time to promote the contest, time for the designers and for discussioning the whole thing. What do you guys and girls out there think about it?

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davidm · 2005-08-08 21:16:28

Well, should I :blush: ? ;-p

Yeah I agree about October, somewhere between middle and the end should be fine…

And 1.0 coming in one week ?
Hell, I really am out of it, that’s nuts how fast things move around here when you go away for three weeks ! I have some reading and catching up to do…

alexandra · 2005-08-08 21:31:30

Deadline for submissions: Sunday, October 23rd?

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thebombsite · 2005-08-08 23:37:40

That sounds OK to me Alex. :)

Now I’ve just done a brand new install with r727 just to see what changes there are to default form and page templates. I then sat there staring at it thinking about how I might go about doing a design with it and came to the conclusion that it isn’t possible, unless everybody does a 3-column design, without changing the template in minor ways.

There are items included in both menus which means that if someone wished to create a 2-column design they would either have to move one set of tags to the other menu or do without those tags entirely.

Whilst there are minimal classes and ids in the page template there’s bugger-all in the forms.

I’m not sure if that may change at all before the week is out.

So can we agree that there are no plug-ins?

Could we possibly agree that no new form or page templates be created?

As for what we have, could we agree that we can move tags around and add classes/ids but not add or remove anything? If there is something you don’t want you can make it disappear in the CSS.

Is that too restrictive?

Should we be allowed to add TXP tags?

Should we simply create a template/s and form/s ourselves which everyone has to use and include as part of their style download file?

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marios · 2005-08-09 00:18:05

> thebombsite wrote:

> That sounds OK to me Alex. :)

Now I’ve just done a brand new install with r727 just to see what changes there are to default form and page templates. I then sat there staring at it thinking about how I might go about doing a design with it and came to the conclusion that it isn’t possible, unless everybody does a 3-column design, without changing the template in minor ways.

That summarizes it nicely in a contemplating manner.

Whilst there are minimal classes and ids in the page template there’s bugger-all in the forms.

Would it not make sense to have class hooks on all the static markup elements by default ?

As for what we have, could we agree that we can move tags around and add classes/ids but not add or remove anything? If there is something you don’t want you can make it disappear in the CSS.

You meant only moving around the mains:sidebar1, sidebar2 and content or allso the dynamic tags?

Should we be allowed to add TXP tags?

If so, a conventional list with the min or max tags allowed would make sense.

In any case if the template stays as is, could it be at least possible to remove the wraptag p attribute from the linklist,where it doesn’t make much sense(replace it with wraptag ul, in case that minimal form generation would be allowed.)

with best regards, marios

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