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#49 2024-02-28 09:22:15

gaekwad
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Re: Is there still a need for a "small content management system"?

Bloke wrote #336777:

I’ll get on that for .com later today, unless anyone wants to jump in ahead and draft something.

Shout if you want a collaborative brainmeat on that, Bloke – I’ve got some time after 8pm.

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#50 2024-02-28 10:29:12

Bloke
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Re: Is there still a need for a "small content management system"?

Sweet thank you. I may take you up on that.


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#51 2024-02-28 11:44:10

etc
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Re: Is there still a need for a "small content management system"?

wet wrote #336772:

Textpattern is one of the last volunteer-driven non-profit publishing tools of our days.

Hmm, not sure this is indisputably flattering from other tools pov.

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#52 2024-02-28 12:07:41

wet
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Re: Is there still a need for a "small content management system"?

Maybe you are right. Maybe I’m too naive and OSS-tainted, while paying customers have sometimes struggled to understand why this thing is free as in beer, and assumed it must have a hidden agenda or come from a hobbyist/communist group.

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#53 2024-03-02 02:18:34

phiw13
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Re: Is there still a need for a "small content management system"?

From the original article at 404 media, some stuff that might be or have been crawled:

private posts on public blogs
posts on deleted or suspended blogs
unanswered asks (normally these are not public until they’re answered)
private answers (these only show up to the receiver and are not public)

It seems Automaticc is trying to walk back a little, and that might become opt-in after all (?). Automaticc
(via Nick Heer – Automattic Is Doing Some Weird Stuff With Users’ Public Data)


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#54 2024-08-11 23:58:42

jonathanbrickman0000
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Re: Is there still a need for a "small content management system"?

Recently I was faced with a web-site development problem, and I noticed how Textpattern just completely knocks it out.

Some executives explicitly require that web sites be built to reach the very widest cross-section of users possible. We’re talking twenty-year old Mac laptops, old phones, very unusual machines, et cetera. My company had a customer who had hired a developer to build such a site, and the Wordpress he built worked fine on newer machines — but seven years old meant problems, and out-of-date browsers were more problems, these being at least one in ten of his known local customers. I tracked it down to a certificate issue — we had to use a better one, one from a better supplier with longer pedigree (older root certs!) who guaranteed results, and this worked — and then also, to the general massive nature of Wordpress with plugins. There were upwards of fifty different HTTPS pulls per page, and I could do nothing about this. Any browser not great with HTTP 1.1 or higher, will cough a lot, because it’s going to try 50 separate pulls per page! All of those customers of his reported that eBay worked fine, and “all of the others they needed” (grain of salt please), but rather clearly, the people responsible for those web sites have noticed this situation and designed accordingly. Contrast that Wordpress, with the two Textpatterns I have built, and the situation is clear. One of my sites is combined blog and reference:

notes.ponderworthy.com

and it runs lickety-split on anything, never had a failure, even on the few pages that do have significant images. Even when I’m remoted into a site with pegged bandwidth, I can almost always get into my site to get some scrap for quick use.

So. For cheap and dirty development, when we’re only trying to reach people with machines that are fairly up to date, when people who don’t know much are asked to build things, and when fancy flash is needed as fast as possible, sure, Wix, Wordpress, et al., and many executives cannot stomach any better for their situation. If I want to reach as many people as possible, we have to do very differently, and TextPattern is a purely wonderful tool for this!!!!!!

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#55 2024-08-12 15:20:01

skewray
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Re: Is there still a need for a "small content management system"?

I originally installed Textpattern because there was an automatic downloader for it in cPanel, and the only other alternative installer at that time was WordPress. The Textpattern installer is no longer there in cPanel. I wonder how this has affected Textpattern’s popularity?

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#56 2024-08-12 16:33:44

Bloke
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Re: Is there still a need for a "small content management system"?

skewray wrote #337587:

I originally installed Textpattern because there was an automatic downloader for it in cPanel… The Textpattern installer is no longer there in cPanel. I wonder how this has affected Textpattern’s popularity?

Honestly I’ve no idea how we even get on these cpanel installers. Perhaps we need to gain some critical mass of users before we’re considered, or we just contact hosting firms and politely ask if they’ll host our installer.

We’ve had an automated install process available for some time – the demo site uses it, although there is a little jiggery-pokery because it needs to create multiple accounts and repave every few hours.

I can’t see any impediment to being added to hosts. If anybody has any info on how this is done or if we’re eligible, then it would certainly be something I’d be interested in considering.


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#57 2024-08-13 04:31:30

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Re: Is there still a need for a "small content management system"?

Bloke wrote #337588:

[…] I can’t see any impediment to being added to hosts. If anybody has any info on how this is done or if we’re eligible, then it would certainly be something I’d be interested in considering.

Some hosting companies use Softaculous as an automatic installer in their hosting panel. Unfortunately, TXP’s rating is pretty weak. Maybe the community could change the popularity by submitting their opinion (no account needed):

https://www.softaculous.com/apps/blogs/Textpattern


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#58 2024-08-13 08:18:08

Bloke
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Re: Is there still a need for a "small content management system"?

Pat64 wrote #337590:

Some hosting companies use Softaculous as an automatic installer in their hosting panel. Unfortunately, TXP’s rating is pretty weak. Maybe the community could change the popularity by submitting their opinion

Great idea. I’ve submitted my review (it’s not visible yet) and rating. Thanks for the pointer. Anyone else who can rave about it in under 500 words characters, please do!

I wonder how we can change that list of Features? They’re so outdated and we could do with getting rid of some of the old ones (up-to-the minute logs as the 2nd bullet item?! Import from other systems? Neither have been part of the code for ages) and adding a few more relevant, killer features.


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#59 2024-08-13 15:45:02

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Re: Is there still a need for a "small content management system"?

the Demo link could use some loving if someone knows how to do that


…. texted postive

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#60 2024-08-13 18:12:19

Ray
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Registered: 2004-03-02
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Re: Is there still a need for a "small content management system"?

Gentlemen and women, good to see you are all still alive and well in the Textpattern community. It’s been a little more than awhile since I’ve visited these forums with any regularity.

I started using TXP almost exclusively since the Beta days, and never looked back. The dozen or so sites I built were all on Textpattern. Most were for small business, a couple personal blogs, and two quasi enterprize sized sites (read government). In 2010 life threw a couple curve balls at me and messing around with web sites fell by the wayside. I have remained interested on a cursory level, but what I have seen/heard lately is that more small businesses and content creators want better control of their web environment. Whenever the topic of CMS comes up in a conversation, either for personal or business use, I ALWAYS recommend Textpattern. Most people get back to me with gratitude. I believe this speaks to what Dean would refer to as ‘Economy and Clairity’. Textpattern is quite simply a publishing tool designed with this philosophy at it’s core… economy and clairity. For this reason I believe there is and will remain “a need for a small CMS”. I do miss Dean’s presence on the planet and wish things had gone better for him. You were loved Dean!

Sidenote:: Someone in this thread mentioned WP bloat. I recently took a look under the hood of a fresh WP install and immediately ran in the other direction.

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