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Re: Feedback for: Textpattern CMS 4.8.2 released
zero wrote #325023:
Perhaps at the end of the Get started page?
Good idea. We could always add a little section on the end of the Get Started page with a link to GitHub releases to obtain “legacy versions” and just strongly discourage their use unless it’s for upgrade hopping.
I’ll dig out offending .htaccess files for you soon.
Thank you. If there’s anything sensitive in them you don’t want to post here, drop me an email.
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Re: Feedback for: Textpattern CMS 4.8.2 released
Bloke wrote #325020:
Not sure if that’s better or worse than a broken admin side or site. Probably better.
Love your thinking and am excited for the next level plugin management coming!
My thinking on the disabling plugins vs messing up the front side of a website – I get it’s a personal preference. I’d rather have my front of site messed up temporarily than to edit the database directly to disable an offending plugin.
Back on topic – thank you to each of you for the great job improving great software.
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Re: Feedback for: Textpattern CMS 4.8.2 released
zero wrote #325021:
In READme upgrade instructions, it says “NOTE: Versions prior to 4.2.0 should be upgraded to 4.2.0 before subsequent version upgrades.” But I don’t see any links anywhere to get hold of such a version.
This is partially my doing as I did the scoping out for upgrading old-old versions to new releases. Point taken about it not being hugely helpful as-is, but searching for “Textpattern 4.2.0” on a variety of search engines just now brings up the release notes blog post as the first or second hit. Searching textpattern.com for “4.2.0” brings the same post as the third hit right now. Not really ideal, since we use “Textpattern CMS” in the blog title so any searching for “Textpattern 4.2.0” only catches outliers.
There’s also this forum article which ranks quite highly in SERPs: forum.textpattern.com/viewtopic.php?id=48695
…and one for the archivists/librarians/packrats: github.com/textpattern-community/textpattern-releases
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Re: Feedback for: Textpattern CMS 4.8.2 released
gaekwad wrote #325027:
There’s also this forum article which ranks quite highly in SERPs: forum.textpattern.com/viewtopic.php?id=48695
…and one for the archivists/librarians/packrats: github.com/textpattern-community/textpattern-releases
Great stuff, Pete. I didn’t think of using a search engine to look for it, I just went to textpattern.com and had a quick look round. I suppose anyone with the task of reviving such an old site would be more likely to do as you did, rather than my dopey way.
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Re: Feedback for: Textpattern CMS 4.8.2 released
zero wrote #325028:
I didn’t think of using a search engine to look for it, I just went to textpattern.com and had a quick look round.
Your point is valid, though – and I wasn’t being snarky, I hope that’s not how that came across. There’s a branding guideline that we have, broadly speaking when we refer to Textpattern we call it Textpattern CMS the first time, then Textpattern after that…and release articles tend to be more keyword oriented given their wider audience (i.e. not just forum frequent flyers).
Not sure how we solve this – offering a download archive on .com might send mixed messages…but then there’s essentially an archive on GitHub, so…dunno.
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Re: Feedback for: Textpattern CMS 4.8.2 released
You didn’t come across as snarky. On reflection, I think you’ve already solved it, it would be such a rare case, and people would use search if they really wanted 4.2.0
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Re: Feedback for: Textpattern CMS 4.8.2 released
Bloke a dit:
The new size attribute. . .
giz wrote #325018:
Fantastika!
Indeed. Nice and needed new tweak.
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Re: Feedback for: Textpattern CMS 4.8.2 released
Bloke wrote #325024:
zero wrote #325023:
I’ll dig out offending .htaccess files for you soon.
It’s Litespeed, I do believe. All sites hosted on litespeed servers don’t show .htaccess contents in diagnostics, whereas all on Apache servers do, as far as my tests go. The .htaccess on the litespeeds were various including default Textpattern.
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Re: Feedback for: Textpattern CMS 4.8.2 released
zero wrote #325056:
It’s Litespeed, I do believe. All sites hosted on litespeed servers don’t show .htaccess contents in diagnostics, whereas all on Apache servers do, as far as my tests go.
This triggered a hazy memory of a client I had last year, so I went looking around – found this: openlitespeed.org/kb/migrate-apache-rewrite-rules-to-openlitespeed/ (linked from www.litespeedtech.com/support/forum/threads/openlitespeed-wont-read-htaccess-files.17644/ for info).
Edit: I haven’t used Litespeed myself but I recall (distantly) there was some .htaccess fun and games with this Litespeed client, so it might be worth a closer look.
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Re: Feedback for: Textpattern CMS 4.8.2 released
I’ve checked Diagnostics carefully and the only difference I see between apache and litespeed output is the missing .htaccess details, so not really a problem that needs fixing I think.
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Re: Feedback for: Textpattern CMS 4.8.2 released
Interesting. Never used Litespeed either.
Before outputting .htaccess, we do a test for ‘is this an Apache environment?’. If not, they’re ignored, which is why you don’t see them. I’m not sure if we can test ‘if Apache OR Litespeed’ and output them in both cases. It would depend on what PHP functions are available for us to query the server environment.
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Re: Feedback for: Textpattern CMS 4.8.2 released
One simple way to check if .htaccess is actually being used would be to put a bogus line at the beginning (i.e. deliberately break it) and see if the site still loads. I’m assuming fancy URLs are working, so I’m guessing there’s something being processed.
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Re: Feedback for: Textpattern CMS 4.8.2 released
I’m not sure based on those links you posted whether Litespeed actually uses .htaccess files that are put there manually, or if only certain hosts require you to add them via the control panel so they can be installed on your behalf.
Either way, our check for displaying them in diagnostics is governed by this line:
$is_apache = stristr(serverSet('SERVER_SOFTWARE'), 'Apache') || is_callable('apache_get_version');If it fails that test (i.e. the server doesn’t mention the word ‘Apache’ or PHP doesn’t report that we can access Apache-related content) then you don’t get the .htaccess and other Apache-style content reported in Diagnostics.
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Re: Feedback for: Textpattern CMS 4.8.2 released
Bloke wrote #325061:
I’m not sure based on those links you posted whether Litespeed actually uses .htaccess files that are put there manually, or if only certain hosts require you to add them via the control panel so they can be installed on your behalf.
This was my thinking, too – wasn’t 100% sure whether I’d understood it correctly.
zero – are you using clean URLs successfully?
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Re: Feedback for: Textpattern CMS 4.8.2 released
gaekwad wrote #325062:
This was my thinking, too – wasn’t 100% sure whether I’d understood it correctly.
zero – are you using clean URLs successfully?
Yes, never had a problem, been using Litespeed for 3 years at least. When I make changes to .htaccess I get immediate response, so it is being used
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