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Re: Corona virus
colak wrote #322306:
I like Jeremy Corbyn, but he and the Labour party are ignoring Goggle, Faecebook and 5G. My local Labour party communicate via a “secret, safe group” on Farcebook and think I’m a conspiracy theorist for objecting. I’ve written to MPs and had negative replies regarding 5G. Local councils use recaptcha to be able to enter their online info and sign up for ebilling etc. I’ve written that the recaptcha is invisible for me cos I’ve banned Gobble from my computer and asked them to consider open-source alternatives that protect privacy, but I just get told they will continue with paper letters and bills in my case. It’s the same with several online organisations. But that’s gone off-topic.
That’s good advice although I don’t fancy washing fruit in soap!
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zero wrote #322308:
I like Jeremy Corbyn, but he and the Labour party are ignoring Goggle, Faecebook and 5G. My local Labour party communicate via a “secret, safe group” on Farcebook and think I’m a conspiracy theorist for objecting. I’ve written to MPs and had negative replies regarding 5G. Local councils use recaptcha to be able to enter their online info and sign up for ebilling etc. I’ve written that the recaptcha is invisible for me cos I’ve banned Gobble from my computer and asked them to consider open-source alternatives that protect privacy, but I just get told they will continue with paper letters and bills in my case. It’s the same with several online organisations. But that’s gone off-topic.
That’s good advice although I don’t fancy washing fruit in soap!
fruit’s skin is like our skin. wash in soap, rinse thoroughly. munch munch …so good
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zero wrote #322308:
I like Jeremy Corbyn, but he and the Labour party are ignoring Goggle, Faecebook and 5G. My local Labour party communicate via a “secret, safe group” on Farcebook and think I’m a conspiracy theorist for objecting. I’ve written to MPs and had negative replies regarding 5G. Local councils use recaptcha to be able to enter their online info and sign up for ebilling etc. I’ve written that the recaptcha is invisible for me cos I’ve banned Gobble from my computer and asked them to consider open-source alternatives that protect privacy, but I just get told they will continue with paper letters and bills in my case. It’s the same with several online organisations. But that’s gone off-topic.
What it comes down to for parties is communication. As problematic as our mainstream social media are, they are the ones attracting the masses. And parties want is to reach as many people as possible with the minimum effort. Unfortunately fb and yt are the best choices.
Re 5G, although I am, like you, very sceptical about the technology, my more learned friends say that there is no evidence yet that it is as bad as many articles and videos on the net make out. We may even concider them as … fake news.
bici wrote #322309:
fruit’s skin is like our skin. wash in soap, rinse thoroughly. munch munch …so good
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Bloke wrote #322307:
They’ve started putting limits on shop entrances here too. Mainly the local ones; two in while the rest queue in marked squares on the pavement a few metres apart. Not that people are taking much notice of limits once inside. Nor are the staff, shelf stacking and nudging against you as you wander around. People in the post office are wearing one-use gloves but not changing them between customers. Duh!
This is just the beginning. Study the measures taken in China, Italy, Spain, Cyprus. They will arrive there too.
>Edited to add that the half a million mark has been surpassed about an hour ago.
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Although cast with a grim tone, How The World Will Change Over The Next 18 Months is perhaps tinged with a hope I share that this is a positive wake-up call. Not only for climate adjustments and ecological growth, but for fundamentally reshaping the stupid notion that the 9-5 and commuting is mandatory, five days a week.
Other things I hope will be affected are improving our fragile supply chains; reducing the ridiculous always-on supermarket shelves, returning to more seasonal farming methods that are subsequently less reliant on pesticides; becoming more focused on what we consume and how to make it stretch; and rethinking over-cleanliness and abuse of antibiotics that allows viruses to spread voraciously through swathes of the population with low natural immunity.
Of course, I may be far too optimistic that we’ll learn from this.
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Bloke wrote #322314:
Although cast with a grim tone, How The World Will Change Over The Next 18 Months is perhaps tinged with a hope I share that this is a positive wake-up call. Not only for climate adjustments and ecological growth, but for fundamentally reshaping the stupid notion that the 9-5 and commuting is mandatory, five days a week.
Other things I hope will be affected are improving our fragile supply chains; reducing the ridiculous always-on supermarket shelves, returning to more seasonal farming methods that are subsequently less reliant on pesticides; becoming more focused on what we consume and how to make it stretch; and rethinking over-cleanliness and abuse of antibiotics that allows viruses to spread voraciously through swathes of the population with low natural immunity.
Of course, I may be far too optimistic that we’ll learn from this.
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#81 2020-03-27 04:20:49
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Home quarantine has been lifted in most parts of China.
Shopping malls, restaurants, and industries are resuming production.
No new infections have appeared in our city in the past month.
Strict isolation restrictions have effectively slowed down virus transmission.
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Summer wrote #322318:
which part of china? i assume not in the epicentre of Wuhan?Home quarantine has been lifted in most parts of China.
Shopping malls, restaurants, and industries are resuming production.
No new infections have appeared in our city in the past month.
Strict isolation restrictions have effectively slowed down virus transmission.
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#83 2020-03-27 04:40:54
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In reply to bici #322319:
Wuhan will lift restrictions in April.
Home quarantine restrictions will be lifted, but quarantine measures will continue.
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The following arrived to my inbox and it is originally from physician Irene Ken, quite informative.
> Edited to add that this information appears not to be all correct. Please see the corrected info on the NeMe site
- The virus is not a living organism, but a protein molecule (DNA) covered by a protective layer of lipid (fat), which, when absorbed by the cells of the ocular, nasal or buccal mucosa, changes their genetic code. (mutation) and convert them into aggressor and multiplier cells.
- Since the virus is not a living organism but a protein molecule, it is not killed, but decays on its own. The disintegration time depends on the temperature, humidity and type of material where it lies.
- The virus is very fragile; the only thing that protects it is a thin outer layer of fat. That is why any soap or detergent is the best remedy, because the foam CUTS the FAT (that is why you have to rub so much: for 20 seconds or more, to make a lot of foam). By dissolving the fat layer, the protein molecule disperses and breaks down on its own.
- HEAT melts fat; this is why it is so good to use water above 77 degrees Fahrenheit for washing hands, clothes and everything. In addition, hot water makes more foam and that makes it even more useful.
- Alcohol or any mixture with alcohol over 65% DISSOLVES ANY FAT, especially the external lipid layer of the virus.
- Any mix with 1 part bleach and 5 parts water directly dissolves the protein, breaks it down from the inside.
- Oxygenated water helps long after soap, alcohol and chlorine, because peroxide dissolves the virus protein, but you have to use it pure and it hurts your skin.
- NO BACTERICIDE OR ANTIBIOTIC SERVES. The virus is not a living organism like bacteria; antibodies cannot kill what is not alive.
- NEVER shake used or unused clothing, sheets or cloth. While it is glued to a porous surface, it is very inert and disintegrates only between
- 3 hours (fabric and porous),
- 4 hours (copper and wood),
- 24 hours (cardboard),
- 42 hours (metal)
- and 72 hours (plastic).
- But if you shake fabrics or use a feather duster, the virus molecules float in the air for up to 3 hours, and can lodge in your nose.
- The virus molecules remain very stable in external cold, or artificial as air conditioners in houses and cars. They also need moisture to stay stable, and especially darkness. Therefore, dehumidified, dry, warm and bright environments will degrade it faster.
- UV LIGHT on any object that may contain it breaks down the virus protein. For example, to disinfect and reuse a mask is perfect. Be careful, it also breaks down collagen (which is protein) in the skin.
- The virus CANNOT go through healthy skin.
- Vinegar is NOT useful because it does not break down the protective layer of fat.
- NO SPIRITS, NOR VODKA, serve. The strongest vodka is 40% alcohol, and you need 65%.
- LISTERINE IF IT SERVES! It is 65% alcohol.
- The more confined the space, the more concentration of the virus there can be. The more open or naturally ventilated, the less.
- You have to wash your hands before and after touching mucosa, food, locks, knobs, switches, remote control, cell phone, watches, computers, desks, TV, etc. And when using the bathroom.
- You have to Moisturize dry hands from so much washing them, because the molecules can hide in the micro cracks. The thicker the moisturizer, the better.
- Also keep your NAILS SHORT so that the virus does not hide there.
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At NeMe we decided to start a resource in order to add to the efforts to prevent the further spread of the virus. See it here. Any recommendations for additions or deletions are welcome.
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Nice work, Yiannis.
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Bloke wrote #322326:
Nice work, Yiannis.
Thanks Stef,
I already received an email from Dan Pinkel with some vital corrections you can view on github
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Some delightful, uplifting, empathic, sobering, and true words from the Roman author Francesca Melandri in The Guardian.
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