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If anyone can get email right, the folks at Basecamp might.
That said, I have zero problems with spam using Protonmail (unlike the flood of spam I always get through accounts setup on web hosts), and they are battle-hardened against multiple, persistent, intense DDoS attacks since launching; the first being almost immediately after their launch. So, I’m in no hurry to change. But nice to see a new, ethical player in a space needing ethical players.
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Sure, great. But still an american company, who can’t do anything about handing out our data to NSA, should they being asked.
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planeth wrote #321594:
Sure, great. But still an american company, who can’t do anything about handing out our data to NSA, should they being asked.
Unfortunately, this is going international, starting with Five Eyes and is expanding fast with France, Germany, Denmark, Norway, Japan, Belgium, Italy, Spain and Sweden. Basically there will be a lot of pro-privacy struggles ahead.
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@colak, sure. I was more wary of the Cloud Act, which directly aimed at GDPR (IMHO). You’re right that a lot more is taking place :(
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michaelkpate wrote #321598:
mail.ru is still a thing.
I agree with you! Their algorithms are absolutely scary! My comment was indeed more regional than I intended it to be. But in the end, should it not be about us? Our direct experiences? Should it not be about making our lives better? If I learned anything, is that happier neighbours are better neighbours. Shouldn’t we all be aiming to be the happier ones?
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Destry wrote #321593:
If anyone can get email right, the folks at Basecamp might.
That said, I have zero problems with spam using Protonmail (unlike the flood of spam I always get through accounts setup on web hosts), and they are battle-hardened against multiple, persistent, intense DDoS attacks since launching; the first being almost immediately after their launch. So, I’m in no hurry to change. But nice to see a new, ethical player in a space needing ethical players.
Thanks for the heads up! I have asked for an invite. I really really want to get rid of gmail.
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Interesting. I really appreciate the guys behind Basecamp. They tend to “do their own thing” which is always refreshing. Otherwise, if you’re looking for good e-mail alternatives: Fastmail is the best thing out there.
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dos wrote #321609:
Otherwise, if you’re looking for good e-mail alternatives: Fastmail is the best thing out there.
+1 to this.
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Another alternative that has been recommended to me, especially on the privacy and security front: tutanota. Germany based, with their quite reasonable privacy legislation. But Germany also means five eyes associated. (and no I do not believe Protonmail is all that spy proof)
colak wrote #321601:
But in the end, should it not be about us? Our direct experiences? Should it not be about making our lives better? If I learned anything, is that happier neighbours are better neighbours. Shouldn’t we all be aiming to be the happier ones?
Dito that one.
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phiw13 wrote #321612:
Another alternative that has been recommended to me, especially on the privacy and security front: tutanota. Germany based, with their quite reasonable privacy legislation. But Germany also means five eyes associated. (and no I do not believe Protonmail is all that spy proof)
Well live and learn. Tutanota looks very interesting. And it has a free plan!
If it is soam proof that is good enough for me. √ .
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I’ve had a tutanota account since they launched. It was very rocky for them for a while, and product was buggy for a long time. But they are still at it. I rarely use it, but it is available as a non-biz backup account when needed.
I doubt any email account is spy-free, but some are better than others.
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Destry wrote #321641:
I doubt any email account is spy-free, but some are better than others.
If you have time, curiosity and patience, the do-it-yourself approach is worth investigating: www.c0ffee.net/blog/mail-server-guide/
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I read that intriguing intro too but it’s high on spin and low on content and the only thing keeping my attention is their previous track record.
I always wonder how open these systems are to others. A system can set up a lot of internal routines and methods for those who send and receive only from that service, but most of us mail with the rest of the world and it’s way harder to keep your emails away from prying eyes when they pass through numerous other nodes that don’t apply the same level of security or standards. Is there such a magic bullet out there?
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DHH… On Apple’s monopoly power to destroy HEY
It is simply not possible to even get the chance to take on the likes of Google, Microsoft, and Verizon with a new email service without begging Apple for permission to do so.
In other news, Apple just won the EU case against them, trying to make them pay the billions in unpaid taxes due to their Irish tax haven affiliation.
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