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Re: WebFaction joins GoDaddy
phiw13 wrote #316256:
Been using DreamHost for 10 years or so. Their unlimited shared hosting plans are fairly good for your (my) basic needs. SSH, separate SFTP user, possibility to use SequelPro on my Mac instead of that screaming disaster that is PHPMyAdmin. Email setup is OK and email works fairly well. Their ControlPanel is not very intuitive to navigate, but it is slowly improving and they’ve been doing efforts to document everything.
ok sounds like i should kick their tires. wil lsign up for a test account.
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Re: WebFaction joins GoDaddy
gee… the more i look the more i find… SiteGround out of Bulgaria. That sounds wild. and enticing
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Destry wrote #316226:
Signed up and paid my first year at o2switch this morning (many hours ago). I have yet to get so much as an automated/no-reply email greeting or confirmation of anything. My ‘dashboard’ shows ‘in process’, but this is, without a doubt, the slowest response from a web host I have ever experienced. I’m half tempted to cancel it and go to infomaniak. Even Dean had me up and running within an hour, which was about the only thing that came fast from him. ;)
So, turns out I had not heard a response because my payment didn’t go through even though their dashboard gave me an affirmative, big yellow smiley face and all. I found this out by creating a ticket with them via my dashboard account, which turned into the following, heavily-paraphrased exchange…
D: Bonjour… I’ve tried to give you good money, but the machines failed. What gives?
o2: There can be problems if — [long list of technical things that makes me sound like I’m up to criminal mischief] — and it’s not our fault. Or maybe its your bank. – A___
D: / checks with bank. No blockage problem there. /
D: I am not — [any of the long list of technical possibilities] — and no problem at my bank’s end either.
o2: / radio silence for 24 hours /
D: / getting impatient / Hey, bank looks good, I’m about to try again.
D: / tries again /
o2: / replies immediately / Probably your Protonmail account — [gives righteous position against Protonmail, haven of evil spammers, hackers, phishers…] — we suggest you use “a real email address”. – R___
D: /* decides not to give them a dime, but will play it out another message or two */
D: Bonjour. Are you F- serious? What’s a real email address? Gmail, king of surveillance capitalism? Yahoo, screwed so many times it can’t hold a meal long enough to digest? Hotmail? Pray tell, what is a ‘real’ email account? How about Tutanota (gives them the link), which cares about privacy and security? That’s the only other one I have. / plays ace up sleeve / I have a contract with Protonmail as my processor under GDPR as required by CNIL (the French DP authority).
o2: / unfazed / I’ve never heard of Tutanota. We — [more righteous spouting about being the good host guy and Protonmail is bad, so I must be up to no good]. / doesn’t suggest any ‘real’ email service provider / – R___
D: How does my receiving Protonmail account have anything to do with your security? I’m just using it so you can initially send me the details I need to transfer and host my sites, so I can give you money. You had no problem accepting the Protonmail account to set up this profile so we could have this conversation… Your logic is illogical. But, don’t answer that question. I will find another host and ensure my network doesn’t use o2switch. Cordially.
D: Er… by the power of my rights under the mighty GDPR, please delete this account and my personal data. Thanks
So, don’t use o2switch. Not that anyone here would, I guess. I mean, I suppose I can appreciate having that insight about Protonmail, however little or well supported that info is. But they won’t give me hosting because my sign up email is Protonmail? That’s new to me.
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Oh man. This would be funny if not a pain in the arse. They went ahead and processed my payment! I just got the confirmation mails. I guess I made a good enough argument. Maybe the supervisor stepped in… Whatever, I should roll with it since they accommodated.
I’m still not sure I’d recommend them, but I’ll downgrade the alarm to just: shop around first.
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Turns out SiteGround offers a measly 50gb of storage. Webfaction provided 150gb for Mail at the same price !
gawd what a mess the hosting world has become!
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bici wrote #316287:
Turns out SiteGround offers a measly 50gb of storage. Webfaction provided 150gb for Mail at the same price !
Are you ever going to use that much with all your sites?
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jakob wrote #316288:
Are you ever going to use that much with all your sites?
the website files use 1.5 gb of storage. But Email boxes are at 132gb….
i am currently at 132 gb because of two clients who are keeping their emails on the server!! One i using 40GB! i have to disabuse them of this real soon!
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Destry wrote #316286:
I should roll with it since they accommodated.
Domain transfer away from Dotster in process. Could take up to 7 days. Bourk! But show is on the road.
O2 informs me there’s some new GDPR-related reg in France about validating domains. I have no grasp of what they’re talking about, even with the explanation, maybe someone can shed light? I translated it for you… ;)
Following the GDPR and for some extensions, the validation of a domain now takes several forms:
1 – Validation mail
2 – Creation of a file at the root of your domain=====
1 – For validation emails, it comes from your service provider directly who must send you the confirmation request that you must then validate on your side.
2 – For file-based validation, you must create a file at the root of your domain on your current hosting which is called:
[long-number].html
and which contains only the following line:
[long-number]
You can then check that the file is accessible by using the URL of the domain which is:
http://wion.com/[long-number].html
or
https://wion.com/[long-number].html
which should then display to you:
[long-number]
You must then choose one of the proposed validations. If you choose file-based validation, after adding it, you must contact us again so that we can validate the addition at the registry level. The validation by email is done with the current provider. In any case, as soon as we receive the domain on our side, the DNS will be modified to make them point to us.
What is this ‘validation of a domain’ business?
Seems like I have a choice to the approach, whatever it is. I doubt I can count on WebFaction for any helpful emails. Thus, put a .html file in the root of my domain it will be. But at the host I’m leaving?
I guess I can cross that bridge when we get there, but it’s be nice to know what’s going on before hand.
It kind of sounds like they’re assuming my domain registration and web hosting are handled by the same company, which they’re not. So I can’t tell if they mean my web host or my registrar. Must be web host. The [long-number] seems to be plucked from somewhere specific, probably WF.
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I was thinking today how nice it would be to just not have anything to do with a website anymore. My sites haven’t been up for years anyway, so ‘what’s the point?’ I asked myself. I’m still not sure I have a good or justifiable answer.
I really don’t see lasting past 60 online, though. Another 7 years tops, and I’m probably handing the domain to the kids.
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in two (2) years time i will have nothing to do with creating/managing websites. I am getting off the Merry-Go-Round.
i will be a soulless wanderer of the internets…. leaving bonbons as i go. You have been warned!
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so the hunt continues: anyone have insights into 1&1 IONOS
i like that they are in Europe even if i am in NA ;-)
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Destry wrote #316290:
Domain transfer away from Dotster in process. Could take up to 7 days. Bourk! But show is on the road.
Unless you were deliberately wanting to leave Dotster (which I could understand), you needn’t necessarily have transferred your domain to O2switch. You could have simply pointed the domain to their servers. But …
7 days is probably just to reduce their support needs. Some people open a ticket after 30 minutes complaining a transfer hasn’t gone through.
What is this ‘validation of a domain’ business?
I haven’t come across that before. Up to now it sufficed to obtain an AUTH-CODE from the existing registrar and give it to the new host/registrar. As only you as the domain owner had access to that, it was a good and easy method. Is that no longer possible?
Thus, put a .html file in the root of my domain it will be. But at the host I’m leaving?
That sounds easy enough and pretty immediate. It’s sounds a lot like the google verification method. The idea is you prove you have access to your own site using that method. You need to ask them what the long number should be (or where you get it), then simply make a text file, paste the long number into it, name the file too accordingly and FTP it to the root folder of your wion.com domain with WF (i.e. where they can find it now). Call it up to check it works, then tell them they can request verification.
Destry wrote #316291:
I was thinking today how nice it would be to just not have anything to do with a website anymore. … I really don’t see lasting past 60 online, though.
Given your previous internet history I find that hard to believe ;-)
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jakob wrote #316297:
Unless you were deliberately wanting to leave Dotster (which I could understand), you needn’t necessarily have transferred your domain to O2switch. You could have simply pointed the domain to their servers.
I just learned, an hour ago, by transferring away from them, that Dotster is only a domain reseller and the actual registrar is domain.com (whose website throws all kinds of GDPR denialism in my face). I got an email from the latter shortly ago and I was compelled to contact Dotster to ensure it wasn’t a phishing attempt or something. (I’m very nervous about losing my domain in today’s cutthroat climate.) I’ve been with Dotster for years, I’ve lost count of how many, and I’m not sure I ever knew they were just a reseller. It probably says in the Terms, but I’ve not looked at those in years.
When I first joined Dotster, easily over a decade ago, they were a much different company on the surface, and from my home territory in the States, so I went with them. I don’t know what happened along the way, but support started going to India, all kinds of ‘add-ons’ were being shoved at me. It changed, and I didn’t like it. Time to move on. And now that I know they are just a reseller, I’m even happier to leave, though o2 probably is as well. I don’t know. Good question to follow up with.
Up to now it sufficed to obtain an AUTH-CODE from the existing registrar and give it to the new host/registrar.
Yep. Did that already. That was the first step. And to unlock the domain at the current registrar end. Transfer is in progress. That domain.com note I just mentioned said it will happen on the 30th.
This extra bit from o2switch about new GDPR process, that’s news to me too. That came after the code was passed to them.
That sounds easy enough and pretty immediate. . . . The idea is you prove you have access to your own site using that method. You need to ask them what the long number should be (or where you get it), then simply make a text file, paste the long number into it, name the file too accordingly and FTP it to the root folder of your wion.com domain with WF (i.e. where they can find it now). Call it up to check it works, then tell them they can request verification.
Okay, that sounds good. Thanks! I have the long number; just didn’t show it.
Given your previous internet history I find that hard to believe ;-)
Always the optimist. ;)
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Re: WebFaction joins GoDaddy
jakob wrote #316297:
It’s sounds a lot like the google verification method. The idea is you prove you have access to your own site using that method.
One more question about that… It’s supposed to be an .html file, but do I have to make an HTML template, or is it really just the number string only? I’m under the impression it’s just the string. No markup.
Yeah, rereading the mail, it’s pretty clear it’s just the string. Nevermind.
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fwiw, I’ve decided to move to DreamHost, using the VPS hosting because I need node.js to run the Duke River of News (uses Dave Winer’s River5 software), among my other Textpattern sites.
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