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#397 2018-06-12 16:51:52
Re: Txp cookies, visitor logging, and GDPR stuff in general
In order to not get served cookies, you kind of have to set a cookie (or use localstorage). But only one. This one didn’t appear until after I made a choice.
Name eu.notification.cookie
Value 1
Host www.consilium.europa.eu
Path /
Expires Wed, 12 Jun 2019 14:31:48 GMT
Secure No
HttpOnly No
This is the other one I am getting that you didn’t list. It appeared as soon as I visited the site.
Name nmstat
Value 1528813622054
Host .www.consilium.europa.eu
Path /
Expires Mon, 08 Mar 2021 14:27:00 GMT
Secure No
HttpOnly No
More Research:
This cookie name is associated with the website analytics service provided by SiteImprove. It enables site owners to gather usage statistics about their websites. I went to http://www.belfastcity.gov.uk/ and they do the same thing.
If the governments in the EU can’t get GDPR right, it kind of makes it hard for them to take the moral high ground.
Even More Research:
“You accept the use of cookies by continuing to browse the site or closing this banner.” from https://go.siteimprove.com/website-check-demo-ppc-us
A perfect example of how not to implement GDPR as this is supposed to be a clear violation.
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#398 2018-06-13 05:17:35
Re: Txp cookies, visitor logging, and GDPR stuff in general
belfastcity served me 12 cookies
Here are the 20 cookies from EU council on ff visiting from Cyprus
- cdnjs.cloudflare.com
- analytics.council-tvnewsroom.eu
- static.council-tvnewsroom.eu
- stats.g.doubleclick.net
- ssl.google-analytics.com
- www.google-analytics.com
- ajax.googleapis.com
- fonts.googleapis.com
- www.googletagmanager.com
- fonts.gstatic.com
- 443d27e11a58a8213c23-cce49c1ac3bc3a94bf10f1cd2f71c573.ssl.cf3.rackcdn.com
- 9473ad3ea11b29681679-f016b9572ff77a84c11597148be206c7.ssl.cf3.rackcdn.com
- c71e283419c99084e2f1-84bb3e6572a8478bcb83f2e5fe3f9c9e.ssl.cf3.rackcdn.com
- dadfc20f9dc98898440c-a75424f262e53e74f9539145894f4378.ssl.cf3.rackcdn.com
- ssl.siteimprove.com
- abs.twimg.com
- pbs.twimg.com
- cdn.syndication.twimg.com
- platform.twitter.com
- syndication.twitter.com
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#399 2018-06-13 05:19:40
Re: Txp cookies, visitor logging, and GDPR stuff in general
The central governments sites of EU member States and the number of cookies they serve without our consent.
| Country | URL | Cookies Served |
|---|---|---|
| Austria | https://www.federal-chancellery.gv.at/ | 2 |
| Belgium | https://www.belgium.be/en | 5 |
| Bulgaria | http://www.gov.bg/en | 1 |
| Croatia | https://vlada.gov.hr/en | 2 |
| Cyprus | http://www.cyprus.gov.cy/ | 9 |
| Czech Republic | https://www.vlada.cz/en/ | 2 |
| Denmark | http://denmark.dk/ | 11 |
| Estonia | https://www.valitsus.ee/en | 6 |
| Finland | http://valtioneuvosto.fi/ | 3 |
| France | https://www.gouvernement.fr/ | 3 |
| Germany | https://www.bundesregierung.de/ | 1 |
| Greece | https://www.hellenicparliament.gr/ | 2 |
| Hungary | http://www.kormany.hu/ | 11 |
| Ireland | http://www.gov.ie/ | 3 |
| Italy | http://www.governo.it/ | 3 |
| Latvia | http://www.mk.gov.lv/ | 4 |
| Lithuania | https://lrv.lt/en | 4 |
| Luxembourg | https://gouvernement.lu/ | 4 |
| Malta | https://www.gov.mt/ | 4 |
| Netherlands | https://www.government.nl/ | 3 |
| Poland | https://www.senat.gov.pl/ | 4 |
| Portugal | https://www.portugal.gov.pt/ | 6 |
| Romania | http://gov.ro/en | 7 |
| Slovakia | http://www.vlada.gov.sk/ | 2 |
| Slovenia | http://www.vlada.si/en/ | 4 |
| Spain | http://www.lamoncloa.gob.es/ | 3 |
| Sweden | https://www.government.se/ | 8 |
| United Kingdom | https://www.gov.uk/ | 3 |
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#400 2018-06-13 05:42:46
Re: Txp cookies, visitor logging, and GDPR stuff in general
The law on cookies as explained by the EU and an article re privacy shield MEPs call on European Commission to suspend Privacy Shield framework.
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#401 2018-06-13 13:24:17
Re: Txp cookies, visitor logging, and GDPR stuff in general
michaelkpate wrote #312507:
Unfortunately, that doesn’t actually comply with the law.
I can’t wait for the EU to fine a company for sending cookies to someone like Peter Bright. Peter is a naturalized US citizen, which required him to renounce his UK citizenship to get, but he mentioned once that it wasn’t actually recognized by the UK so he is still covered by GDPR.
Very strange. I hope you are joking… because they would have to be very informational invasive to find such things out for the typical Internet person browsing web pages.
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#402 2018-06-13 20:36:16
Re: Txp cookies, visitor logging, and GDPR stuff in general
I appear to have been wrong according to GDPR – The Data Subject , Citizen or Resident?
1. A Data Subject under GDPR is anyone within the borders of the EU at the time of processing of their personal data. However, they can also be anyone and anywhere in the context of EU established Data Controllers an Data Processors.
2. If the Data Subject, moves out of the EU border and say becomes an expat, or goes on holiday then their personal data processed under these circumstances is not covered by the GDPR and they are no longer a Data Subject in the context of the GDPR, unless their data is still processed by an organisation “established” in the EU.
So when I was in Florence, Italy in 2010 and used an Internet Cafe I was covered. But the protection only covers people inside the EU – it doesn’t depend on citizenship.
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#403 2018-06-20 04:56:29
Re: Txp cookies, visitor logging, and GDPR stuff in general
Handbook on European Data protection Law. www.dataprotection.gov.cy/dataprotection/dataprotection.nsf/all/9FB798D267FC3ED8C22581FB00280F1B/$file/Handbook_data_protection_02ENG.pdf
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#404 2018-06-28 23:26:26
Re: Txp cookies, visitor logging, and GDPR stuff in general
“Pretty much everyone is breaking the law right now,” said Denmark-based media analyst Thomas Baekdal. “There is not a single consent dialogue box anywhere that is easy to understand. We [publishers] have not really realized how much this is going to hit us. Everyone is trying to make things work the way they used to, rather than thinking about privacy. The European Union is very aggressive about privacy. This won’t stop just because we have a found a way for people to ignore it. This is coming,” added Baekdal. “They’ll likely attack Google and Facebook first. That’s how it will start, but through that, we will realize that as publishers, we’re just as bad.” – ‘Everyone is breaking the law right now’: GDPR compliance efforts are falling short
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#405 2018-06-29 02:15:29
Re: Txp cookies, visitor logging, and GDPR stuff in general
Manipulative Social Media Practices a longish analysis of practices and dark patterns at Gaggle, Face** and MS Windows 10. Courtesy of the Norwegian Consumer Council.
Where is that emoji for a solar powered submarine when you need it ?
Sand space – admin theme for Textpattern
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#406 2018-06-29 17:34:07
Re: Txp cookies, visitor logging, and GDPR stuff in general
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#407 2018-07-03 09:41:06
Re: Txp cookies, visitor logging, and GDPR stuff in general
Time to uninstall Stylish and report it to your local data authority.
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#408 2018-07-03 10:00:21
Re: Txp cookies, visitor logging, and GDPR stuff in general
Interesting argument here about personal agency lacking in how web is approached. It being more important than data privacy, but to take steps toward more agency, technological web needs to change.
A critical start in that direction is making each of us the first party rather than the second when we deal with the sites, services, companies and apps of the world—and doing that at scale across all of them.
Think about how much more simple and sane it is for websites to accept our terms and our privacy policies, rather than to force each of us, all the time, to accept their terms, all expressed in their own different ways. (Because they are advised by different lawyers, equipped by different third parties, and generally confused anyway.)
Getting sites to agree to our own personal terms and policies is not a stretch, because that’s exactly what we have in the way we deal with each other in the physical world.
I’ll have to think about this one a while.
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