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#13 2016-06-03 03:59:36

gomedia
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Re: Feedback to: Textpattern CMS 4.6.0 beta released

Couple of observations/comments on the new admin theme.

The some of the “buttons” currently styled as links, to my mind look a bit shy:

!https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/5171138/txp_460_beta_1.jpg!

might they be better looking like proper buttons?

!https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/5171138/txp_460_beta_2.jpg!

And using a Phillips head screw for delete:

!https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/5171138/txp_460_beta_3.jpg!

could be better as a more conventional dustbin (an X is generally used for “close”):

!https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/5171138/txp_460_beta_4.jpg!

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#14 2016-06-03 06:40:55

philwareham
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Re: Feedback to: Textpattern CMS 4.6.0 beta released

@gomedia

Those secondary links I want to keep subtle (not as buttons) as the screen looked a whole lot more cluttered when they were buttons.

Valid point about the delete icon – I will try the trash can and see.

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#15 2016-06-03 06:57:13

phiw13
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Re: Feedback to: Textpattern CMS 4.6.0 beta released

gomedia wrote #299451:

could be better as a more conventional dustbin (an X is generally used for “close”):

hmm, makes it look like windows 95… (and that is not a positive assessment!) And I disagree that the “x”, cross mark ‘generally’ is associated with “close”. I see it often used for “delete”.


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#16 2016-06-03 07:01:28

wet
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Re: Feedback to: Textpattern CMS 4.6.0 beta released

‘x’ is ambiguous. The trashcan is not. O/S wars are over.

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#17 2016-06-03 07:04:17

phiw13
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Re: Feedback to: Textpattern CMS 4.6.0 beta released

wet wrote #299457:

‘x’ is ambiguous. The trashcan is not. O/S wars are over.

What do OS wars have to with anything?


Where is that emoji for a solar powered submarine when you need it ?

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#18 2016-06-03 07:56:47

philwareham
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Re: Feedback to: Textpattern CMS 4.6.0 beta released

I may also try the X icon in red, as that is also acceptable UI from my reading. The trash icon does look a bit shit.

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#19 2016-06-03 08:26:52

Bloke
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Re: Feedback to: Textpattern CMS 4.6.0 beta released

Stack exchange says…. sort of inconclusive, but a red hand-drawn ‘x’ is nudging ahead of the field.


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#20 2016-06-03 08:50:51

phiw13
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Re: Feedback to: Textpattern CMS 4.6.0 beta released

wet wrote #299457:

‘x’ is ambiguous. The trashcan is not.

Is it (not)? I always associate a trashcan with deleting-but-recoverable – see: moving files to the trashcan on various desktop OS. The ‘X’ mark on the other hand is associated with permanently remove (delete) and no-way-to-recover. Which is actually what the “destroy” button under discussion does. A red ‘X’ mark a suggested by Phil might be a more acceptable solution – colour clashes aside. And it is certainly much less windows 95 style garish.


Where is that emoji for a solar powered submarine when you need it ?

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#21 2016-06-03 11:47:18

colak
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Re: Feedback to: Textpattern CMS 4.6.0 beta released

x is normally associated to close I think as used in, tabs, browser windows, lightbox type slideshows, etc.

I also agree that the trash also has other connotations.

Do we actually need an icon?


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#22 2016-06-03 12:33:12

Destry
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Re: Feedback to: Textpattern CMS 4.6.0 beta released

philwareham wrote #299454:

Those secondary links I want to keep subtle (not as buttons) as the screen looked a whole lot more cluttered when they were buttons.

Agree. They are clearly links, and follow a text/icon convention. Good enough.

Valid point about the delete icon – I will try the trash can and see.

Actually, every app on my phone uses this for deletion: ⛔️, though more of a flat style than that ugly emoji shite.

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#23 2016-06-03 13:01:30

philwareham
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Re: Feedback to: Textpattern CMS 4.6.0 beta released

OK, regarding delete symbol, see the following tweets:

twitter.com/textpattern/status/738716587767779328

twitter.com/textpattern/status/738716915623952384

Whichever wins out, we will use. Just vote via the tweets, I think it’s been discussed enough here now :)

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#24 2016-06-03 13:10:39

Bloke
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Re: Feedback to: Textpattern CMS 4.6.0 beta released

philwareham wrote #299471:

Just vote via the tweets

Since it’s now imperative that my first tweet be world-shatteringly important (given I’ve had an account for about six years and never tweeted) I’m going to vote here instead:

Cross.

(I think the red minus looks way too much like a no-entry sign).


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