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#31 2015-09-16 12:26:28

hcgtv
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Re: PHPXref at 1024px

Destry wrote #294876:

Maybe you’re the one moving too fast. Where did I say that?

Fast, you ain’t seen fast yet.

The only thing I’ve ever questioned — (I’ll dig up the link/quote later) — is your use of that particular “TXP” logo, because I seem to recall it was Phillipe’s spec work for the current “Textpattern” logo, which didn’t win the bid, as it were. Thus using turned-down spec work on “third-party” (no offense) platforms would, to my mind, obviously introduce confusion to Textpattern’s brand. Why would anyone (you, say) want to introduce confusion about brand identity if the content is supporting the project?

I could be wrong about how I remember the logo selection process, and what Belipe intended the different designs be used for, but if I am wrong, I’ll happily stand corrected. Not a big deal.

Any other presumptions about my opinion, however, would be misplaced.

All someone has to do is email me with their concerns, I’ll gladly work it out with them in private.

The logos look kick-ass on those Themes, don’t you think?

Also, contrary to what you seem to think, I have nothing to do with domain decisions. I can only support (or not) the decisions being made by those who do have the upper-hand on the matter. I even liked the txpcms domain (and many of the other “fun” new TLD options) before it was clear that Phil was going with .io as a .com alternative. And still a precautionary alternative, as far as I’m aware, because nobody can reach Dean. But if a Txp core lead says docs will be moving off the wiki (which was said a loooooooooong time ago), then I have two choices: piss and bitch about it and abandon the effort, or pitch in and help where I can to ensure it’s at least going in the best way possible.

Phil is one of 3 core devs, what does Robert and Stef say about Textpattern.io?

The rest is history.

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#32 2015-09-16 12:39:09

hcgtv
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Re: PHPXref at 1024px

etc wrote #294875:

I don’t mind asking for password, it’s just more you have them – more you forget.

Try KeePass, that’s what I use, there’s no way I could remember all my passwords.

A bit surprised too that Textpattern is so popular among ref thieves. :)

Ref thieves grab everything, they have no project preferences. In the logs, I can see their scrapers hit the top level menu items and float down to /xref/whatever_project_is_next, but now they are met with a 401 instead of a 200.

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#33 2015-09-16 12:54:49

uli
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Re: PHPXref at 1024px

Thanks, Bert, for re-opening the Textpattern section. It’s been very helpful when polishing some plugin.


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#34 2015-09-16 13:05:02

hcgtv
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Re: PHPXref at 1024px

uli wrote #294886:

Thanks, Bert, for re-opening the Textpattern section. It’s been very helpful when polishing some plugin.

You’re welcome.

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#35 2015-09-16 13:08:06

Destry
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Re: PHPXref at 1024px

hcgtv wrote #294877:

The logos look kick-ass on those Themes, don’t you think?

I’ve never liked the pet acronym, “TXP”, which I’ve always been open about and certainly in the minority on. So that gets no love from me.

To me the logo mark itself (hammer an chisel) is the common denominator that could be used effectively across owned and third-party platforms to show some kind of harmonious allegiance. It just needs some creative thought towards how to pull it off. If anything, it should be a fun thing to do, as well as productive.

Phil is one of 3 core devs, what does Robert and Stef say about Textpattern.io?

Honestly, I don’t see where it matters. Who cares, in fact. If one of them has decided and the others are quiet, then obviously it’s consensus by no opposition. Done deal. Let’s move on. Two cents.


The text persuades, the *notes prove。

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#36 2015-09-16 13:32:15

hcgtv
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Re: PHPXref at 1024px

Destry wrote #294889:

The logo is being used on TXP Themes, TXP Tags, TXP Planet and We Love TXP. All of those sites currently hold their allegiance to Textpattern, do you see anything to the contrary?

I’m not talking about allegiance, per se, I’m talking about the visual identity not being confusing. Should I talk slower? ;)
And I don’t just mean your newly acquired suite of sites, but all other third-party sites too.

But like I said, I’m in the minority on “TXP”. I realize that. It just doesn’t communicate the brand name effectively enough. As long as people still write “TextPattern”, I can only think nothing but “Textpattern” is needed wherever possible.

Okay, I say let’s head towards TXP CMS then, anyone oppose?

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#37 2015-09-16 13:51:25

Destry
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Re: PHPXref at 1024px

Well, crap, I’m trying to wrangle kids and hold a conversation and it isn’t working. Somebody better take my admin privs away.

Bert, sorry, thought I was editing my own post. I don’t suppose you could delete your and we try again, there?

Anway, I had said:

To me the logo mark itself (hammer an chisel) is the common denominator that could be used effectively across owned and third-party platforms to show some kind of harmonious allegiance. It just needs some creative thought towards how to pull it off. If anything, it should be a fun thing to do, as well as productive.

To which Bert replied something like this:

The logo is being used on TXP Themes, TXP Tags, TXP Planet and We Love TXP. All of those sites currently hold their allegiance to Textpattern, do you see anything to the contrary?

To which I then replied (when screwing it up in Bert’s post):

I’m not talking about allegiance, per se, I’m talking about the visual identity not being confusing. Should I talk slower? ;)
And I don’t just mean your newly acquired suite of sites, but all other third-party sites too.

But like I said, I’m in the minority on “TXP”. I realize that. It just doesn’t communicate the brand name effectively enough. As long as people still write “TextPattern”, I can only think nothing but “Textpattern” is needed wherever possible.

Bert also had said something along the lines of:

Okay, I say let’s head towards TXP CMS then, anyone oppose?

Which I replied:

-1

That was about it. Apologies for the absolute numb-nut move. Please, remove my admin rights now and bring Gaekwad back.

Last edited by Destry (2015-09-16 14:02:55)


The text persuades, the *notes prove。

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#38 2015-09-16 14:03:34

hcgtv
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Re: PHPXref at 1024px

destry wrote #294890:

But like I said, I’m in the minority on “TXP”. I realize that. It just doesn’t communicate the brand name effectively enough.

Let me get this straight, you’re not thrilled about the use of TXP as a brand name, you wish it went away and Textpattern was used instead, yet you’re giving me a hard time because I use a TXP branded logo on sites that are clearly Textpattern related.

Got it, let me exit stage left, this is way too surreal for me.

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#39 2015-09-16 14:07:34

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Re: PHPXref at 1024px

Exactly wrong. But I’m done talking about it. I’ve got floors to mop. Exiting stage right.


The text persuades, the *notes prove。

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#40 2015-09-16 14:25:28

uli
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Re: PHPXref at 1024px

Also had that, editing when I actually wanted to press quote. If that happens to you, try going back in browser history. At least Firefox has a quite persistent cacheing mechanism (try your own browser) such that I even find text in editing areas when I quit and re-open FF (with windows not closed of course). *now ducks away from flying saucers*


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