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Re: What is Textpattern?
zero wrote #293993:
Just stick to it for consistency.
Consistency was the whole point of me mentioning the last line, because consistency looks better. Who would disagree with that?
I should stop there, but allow me the courtesy of responding fully without public retribution and trolling my inbox…
You can choose all periods, commas, colons, semi-colons etc at the end of lines. Or none. … With the last line, the end of the piece, a full-stop can be the appropriate exception to the rule.
Depends on what kind of element this “piece” (diagram) is being considered as. Clearly you’re seeing it as a list, whereas I’m seeing four distinct paragraphs, because, technically speaking, a list must have a stem statement to extend from (the reason/context for the list to exist), which this diagram doesn’t have. That in itself would mean this diagram is made up of four paragraphs, thus each requires ending punctuation. Three just happens to have associated visuals, but that’s irrelevant.
For demonstration purposes, lets say there was a stem statement at the top of the piece. In fact, the last paragraph would work well (we could use unordered lists too, with a slight change to the stem statement, and the rules are still the same)…
Flexible publishing done your way is an easy three-step process:
- Define and categorise your content using an easy browser-based interface.
- Organise your presentation with Textpattern’s expendable templating system.
- Express yourself using simple tags.
If you wanted to use commas or semi-colons, then you would not capitalise the beginning of items and put “and” at the end of item two. In this case commas are more appropriate because the phrases are relatively short…
Flexible publishing done your way is an easy three-step process:
- define and categorise your content using an easy browser-based interface,
- organise your presentation with Textpattern’s expendable templating system, and
- express yourself using simple tags.
If you wanted no punctuation, then the way it is now would be correct according to Microsoft’s style guide (originally), which demands each item begins with a capital…
Flexible publishing done your way is an easy three-step process:
- Define and categorise your content using an easy browser-based interface
- Organise your presentation with Textpattern’s expendable templating system
- Express yourself using simple tags.
But that can only be done when it’s an actual list, which isn’t the case without a stem statement.
So the whole thing can be dealt with easy, made visually pleasing, and look consistent by putting full-stops at the end of each complete phrase.
Typically, editorial style guides define these kinds of things, for the sake of consistency, of course.
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Re: What is Textpattern?
Here’s the remaining panels:
Style
Plugin
Article
Images & Files
Themes
I gave up on Themes, but included it for ‘completeness’.
I’m the first to admit that some of my copy ain’t right – its a first draft so I can get a handle on its content needs i.e. how much space it takes up. My next step is to build it in svg – the text will be a no-brainer to update once we’ve refined what we want it to say.
Please suggest text replacements as you see fit.
How can we describe Website Themes?
I dunno if I’m happy with the colour scheme yet – its currently Textpattern yellow with a darker version of Phil’s menu-active blue = olive-aqua colour for the ‘active’ overlay.
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Re: What is Textpattern?
It’s looking good to me, giz. In Articles, it’s should be its. If you’re looking to shorten the copy in Articles you could do:
Articles are the basis of Textpattern – each represents a subject and its associated content.
Articles are edited under Content | Write. Format text with Textile, add images, call Custom Fields, and much more.
But I prefer your less terse, friendlier version.
Edit: Content > Write confuses some people
Last edited by zero (2015-08-09 12:01:20)
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#34 2015-08-10 16:35:15
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Re: What is Textpattern?
Thanks, Gary, also from my side, for all your efforts, now and coming!
As a non-native speaker I can’t say much about the term “tab” as in Content > Write tab. My interpretation, though, is that of the tab card itself (the “handle”) that Textpattern has in the Classic theme. That’s been replaced by the Hive theme as the default one. Hence I’d use another term, I can’t say whether that’s best called panel, page, or something completely different.
I’m content with your choice of colors, with just one small exception: for the sake of better contrasts I’d tune the blue of the page stacks to something slightly lighter, even if that would ignore any predefined color.
Thanks again!
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@giz: breaking the pieces up like that works really well and looks fab. If you want some more info on Themes, I’ll try and put some wordage together so we’re ready. Thanks for all the hard work. I can see this being the basis of a “Get to grips with Textpattern in five minutes” infographic…
uli wrote #294054:
I can’t say whether that’s best called panel, page, or something completely different.
Over the last few years I’ve standardised on Panel in all correspondence and documentation as a matter of personal consistency. Primarily because Page can be confused with front-side Pages and Tab is too UI specific. I’m willing to adapt my convention if someone comes up with something better, otherwise I suggest Panel be the official name for an admin-side screen.
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Re: What is Textpattern?
Thanks all.
@Bloke yes, please!
Panel) (and correct punctuation) is the go.
Re: a lighter blue: I agree, but with the way I have it set up in Sketch.app, that would have made the background an icky olive colour. I’ll wait for the code version where I can futz with the colours more easily.
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Re: What is Textpattern?
I couldn’t figure out how to display my svg in this post (or on Github for that matter), so I placed it on my website:
- The sidebar links all point to the same url
- I need to figure out a way to let people know that the damn thing is interactive!
- Words can be easily changed, but not their sizes – each line of text in svg is ‘absolutely positioned’, and so if you bump up the font size of text, it won’t flow and the line-spacing will be wack.
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Re: What is Textpattern?
Sorry to tell you now but I strain to read the small text. Doesn’t matter about your graphical use of tags but I think all the others, (pages, forms etc) should be larger. Also the & is not as grammatically correct as and, imo. You could put Interactive Overview right at the top, but if you could conjure up some svg voodoo and put a speech bubble with I’m interactive just above and pointing to Section it would be more intuitive, especially if you can make it disappear after they’ve interacted. Great work, by the way, and cutting edge, at least it is for me. SVG… mmm… more stuff to learn…
EDIT: In the event of nobody coming up with a purely visual indication, how about a message in your sub-graphic olive style but smaller, centred in the page which says something like:
You can tap or click on various parts of the image below for an interactive explanation
If you place that over the main image, when they click the Close X, it will disappear and they can continue. Maybe?
Last edited by zero (2015-08-19 15:24:40)
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Re: What is Textpattern?
giz wrote #294208:
I couldn’t figure out how to display my svg in this post (or on Github for that matter), so I placed it on my website:
- The sidebar links all point to the same url
- I need to figure out a way to let people know that the damn thing is interactive!
- Words can be easily changed, but not their sizes – each line of text in svg is ‘absolutely positioned’, and so if you bump up the font size of text, it won’t flow and the line-spacing will be wack.
lovely …. I agree that it needs an explanation about it being interactive. Also a small quibble it would be cool if the interactive stiff was able to be toggled on/off rather than to have to use the Clos button.
But otherwise i like it. Thanks
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Re: What is Textpattern?
zero, bici
Thank you. I’ll see how it goes…
On the text legibility on small screens, the plan is to add some media queries to boost font sizes (I knew there was a reason for leaving so much white-space… ;-). I realise that I can even control the leading by using :nth-child(n) selectors and 2D transforms in the css – a bit kludgy, but thats svg. I think a newer spec of svg allows for multi-line text.
I do wonder if it wouldn’t be better to embed snippets of svg into html. Easier to code, but not neatly self-contained like svg…
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Re: What is Textpattern?
Update:
What is Textpattern.svg
What is Textpattern.html
- better on small screens
- added title banner with message
- ‘esc’ key-tap & clicking the active background also triggers the close button
I’ve found css breakpoints can be unreliable when viewing the svg directly from my iPhone, but works when the svg is embedded in html
Last edited by giz (2015-08-21 20:13:07)
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Re: What is Textpattern?
looking great! (just want to say thank you to all the volunteers helping to bring textpattern forward!)
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Re: What is Textpattern?
giz – beautiful work!
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Re: What is Textpattern?
@dos & @towndock
Thanks!
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I forgot to respond:
bici wrote #294229:
Also a small quibble it would be cool if the interactive stiff was able to be toggled on/off rather than to have to use the Clos button.
I considered this at the outset, but thought it best to keep a strict separation between the main diagram and the active overlay to keep it as simple as possible. I added an ‘esc’ key, ‘click-on-the-background’ and links within the description text to ease the pain.
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