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#1 2012-04-25 07:48:50

phiw13
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French translation, minor bug

note for the translator

Under Contenu > Rédiger, Date de publication
Publier « maintenant » should use non-breaking spaces (option-spacebar on OS X) inside the guillemets.

(I mean, this looks silly (screenshot); with non-breaking spaces I can have the word break nicely – yay hyphenation)

And ditto under Contenu > Fichiers, and perhaps other places where the guillemets occur.


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#2 2012-04-25 16:57:09

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Re: French translation, minor bug

Hi Philippe.

Could you test now: I added   between the two “guillemets”.


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#3 2012-04-25 17:02:15

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Re: French translation, minor bug

wouldn’t deleting the spaces after the opening and before the closing guillemets be better?


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#4 2012-04-26 00:07:56

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Re: French translation, minor bug

Pat64 wrote:

Could you test now: I added   between the two “guillemets”.

That is better, but only in Safari & Chrome (tested: OS X 10.7) [*]. Opera and Firefox however treat it as a line-breaking opportunity. I don’t remember offhand what IE 9 does with  . Fwiw, I’ve always used a non-breaking space (  or &160; U+00A0) in those cases, this page (at the bottom) suggests exactly that, as does this page.

[*] screenshot in Safari

colak wrote:

wouldn’t deleting the spaces after the opening and before the closing guillemets be better?

No, French typographical rules require a space after the opening “«” and before the closing “»”.


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#5 2012-04-26 05:46:17

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  is smaller than   and a better choice regarding of typographic rules (in hight quality printed books), I think. if   doesn’t solve the problem, I’m not sure   could be better.

colak wrote:

wouldn’t deleting the spaces after the opening and before the closing guillemets be better?

That’s not perfect, but maybe the solution ;)

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#6 2012-04-26 05:50:19

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Pat64 wrote:

  is smaller than   and a better choice regarding of typographic rules (in hight quality printed books), I think. if   doesn’t solve the problem, I’m not sure   could be better.

alternate suggestion: #8239; (U+202F NARROW NO-BREAK SPACE). Here is a test case.

(textile in the forum makes a mess with that character if I add the ampersand)

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#7 2012-04-26 12:16:50

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… And the winner is…  


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#8 2012-04-26 14:00:42

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Pat64 wrote:

… And the winner is…

:)

But there is a slight problem – the space is displayed as #8239; instead of a space. The ampersand is missing in the source code.


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#9 2012-04-26 18:24:49

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… And the result is…

<p class="publish-now"><input type="checkbox" name="publish_now" value="1" id="publish_now" class="checkbox" /><label for="publish_now"> Publier «&#8239;maintenant&#8239;»</label></p>
<p class="publish-at">&#8230;ou différer le :&#160;<a target="_blank" href="http://rpc.textpattern.com/help/?item=timestamp&language=fr-fr" onclick="popWin(this.href); return false;" class="pophelp">?</a></p>

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#10 2012-04-27 00:07:02

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@Pat64

Merçi Patrick.


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