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#16 2011-11-27 23:19:33

uli
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Re: Guests: 58, Users: 2. -- Pardon?

Which subsumes the said opinions pretty well :)


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#17 2011-11-28 00:59:30

maruchan
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Re: Guests: 58, Users: 2. -- Pardon?

I vote for Tabula rasa being default here. It’s much more modern and feels more like the main TXP site. After all, the yellow bg colors would still be available for those who prefer them…

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#18 2011-11-28 08:32:15

philwareham
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Re: Guests: 58, Users: 2. -- Pardon?

Tabula rasa gets my vote too. Can this forum do polls?

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#19 2011-11-28 09:25:23

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Re: Guests: 58, Users: 2. -- Pardon?

I have to admit that I’ve been using the txp theme for some years now without even thinking about the other ones. after testing the tabula rasa theme for the first time just now I saw a minor css problem which I think that it can be corrected easily..
When viewing the “new posts since last visit” page, there is not enough left padding. Or maybe there should be no yellowish background. (Using FF8.0.1/mac)


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#20 2011-11-28 09:36:18

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Re: Guests: 58, Users: 2. -- Pardon?

Tested tabula right now but still find oxygen better (full width and titles have background color)

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#21 2011-11-28 09:40:52

Bloke
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Re: Guests: 58, Users: 2. -- Pardon?

Tabula’s ok but the fixed width annoys me.


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#22 2011-11-28 11:28:55

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Re: Guests: 58, Users: 2. -- Pardon?

Bloke wrote:

Tabula’s ok but the fixed width annoys me.

Just a few amends to the stylesheet would sort that out, for example…

#punwrap {
  width:840px;
  padding:10px;
  margin:0 auto;
}

to…

#punwrap {
  width:90%;
  min-width: 640px;
  padding:10px;
  margin:0 auto;
}

…would probably make the forum fluid.

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#23 2011-11-28 11:54:22

Bloke
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Re: Guests: 58, Users: 2. -- Pardon?

philwareham wrote:

Just a few amends to the stylesheet would sort that out

Works a treat, thanks. No idea why it wasn’t done that way in the first place. I might make the switch if this happened.

Anyone with their finger on the pulse of the forum administration care to comment on this mod and/or put it in place if it’s deemed the right way to go? Surely for mobile forum browsing it’d make sense? Or is that a whole other ball game?


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#24 2011-11-28 12:02:15

philwareham
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Re: Guests: 58, Users: 2. -- Pardon?

Bloke wrote:

Surely for mobile forum browsing it’d make sense? Or is that a whole other ball game?

It would make it a bit more mobile friendly, but the current layout starts to struggle at thin measures. You could probably get away with a min-width:540px; as the minimum – otherwise a bit more legwork would be needed to make the forum truly mobile friendly.

Last edited by philwareham (2011-11-28 12:02:46)

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#25 2011-11-28 12:14:32

uli
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Re: Guests: 58, Users: 2. -- Pardon?

colak wrote:

When viewing the “new posts since last visit” page, there is not enough left padding.

.intd {
    margin-left: 7px !important;
    }

!important is needed for Stylish (FF extension).

I’ll see if I can separate the necessary amendments in my Stylish sheet from those for my personal prefs. I copied some colors from the .com site and have an atmoshere that comes close to that of the mothership.


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#26 2011-11-28 12:21:28

Bloke
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Re: Guests: 58, Users: 2. -- Pardon?

uli wrote:

I’ll see if I can separate the necessary amendments in my Stylish sheet from those for my personal prefs. I copied some colors from the .com site and have an atmoshere that comes close to that of the mothership.

Thank Uli. You could just post your version here anyway. Some of us might prefer your colours; maybe they could be folded into the tabula css instead of the current scheme if enough people like them? (that might not be easy: I don’t know what’s involved as I’m a forum admin doughnut).


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#27 2011-11-28 12:32:54

philwareham
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Re: Guests: 58, Users: 2. -- Pardon?

I’ve had a look at the full Tabula CSS files and they are nice and clean – which makes it very easy to amend. There’s a couple of suggestions I could make also – some of the vendor prefixes are not needed anymore, for instance…

.pun blockquote {
  color:#555;
  margin-bottom: 1.0em !important;
  border-style: solid;
  border-color: #FDA;
  border-width: 3px 1px 1px 3px;
  -moz-border-radius: 10px;
  -moz-border-radius-topleft:0px;
  -webkit-border-top-right-radius: 10px;
  -webkit-border-bottom-left-radius: 10px;
  -webkit-border-bottom-right-radius: 10px;
  border-top-right-radius: 10px;
  border-bottom-left-radius: 10px;
  border-bottom-right-radius: 10px;
}

could be shortened to just…

.pun blockquote {
  color: #555;
  margin-bottom: 1em !important;
  border: solid #FDA 3px 1px 1px 3px;
  border-radius: 0 10px 10px 10px;
}

Not needed -moz-border-radius since Firefox 4 and -webkit-border-radius since Safari 5 (and because it is purely cosmetic flourishes anyway you can drop those safely without any ill effects).

Last edited by philwareham (2011-11-28 12:35:18)

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#28 2011-11-28 13:09:44

uli
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Re: Guests: 58, Users: 2. -- Pardon?

Bloke wrote:

You could just post your version here anyway. Some of us might prefer your colours;

Ah, well, let’s see ;)
My CSS is pretty dirty, but copying it over to Stylish surely won’t harm your poor foxes.

body {
    border-top: 16px solid #C7D3D8 !important;
    }
.pun a:link, 
.pun a:visited, 
.pun h2 a:link, 
.pun h2 a:visited, 
#brdmenu a:link, 
#brdmenu a:visited, 
li.maintenancelink a:link, 
li.maintenancelink a:visited, 
div.postmsg a:link, 
div.postmsg a:visited {
    color: #4A80BE !important;
    }
label {
    color: #4A80BE !important;
    }
.blockform {
    background: none repeat scroll 0 0 #F0F2F6 !important;
    }
tr.inew {
    background: none repeat scroll 0 0 #F0F2F6 !important;
    }
.inew + .tclcon {
    background: none repeat scroll 0 0 #F0F2F6 !important;
    }
.intd {
    margin-left: 7px !important;
    }
.blockpost {
    border-top:1px solid  #AEB7C0 !important;
    }
.pun blockquote {
    border-color: #D2D7DD !important;
    }
.pun code, .pun pre {
    background-color: #E0E4E9 !important;
    }
p.page-links a:link, 
p.page-links a:visited, 
p.pagelink a:link, 
p.pagelink a:visited {
    background: none repeat scroll 0 0 #F0F2F6 !important;
    }

What I completely left out here is the desparate attempt to colour submits/buttons in TXP/Hive-style yellow. I pulled my hair out over it and just ended in square buttons, system style :/ I absolutely concur with Destry about the importance of yellow for the TXP brand. And cause I removed yellow from Tabula rasa’s head stripe in favour of the mothership style (OK, something around that, with the necessary respect to David DeSandro) I thought a nice spot could be the buttons, they’re on each page and they’re always above the fold when opening a page.


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#29 2011-11-28 13:23:48

philwareham
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Re: Guests: 58, Users: 2. -- Pardon?

Re: buttons – I’ve actually dialled back the yellow buttons in my new theme/structure proposal (in progress). The Hive theme has taken a back seat for the moment while I do more important projects (though I may roll some of of the newer theme styling back into it at some point). So I don’t think you need worry about trying to match any existing site stuff to it.

Last edited by philwareham (2011-11-28 13:24:26)

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#30 2011-11-28 13:59:39

Bloke
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Re: Guests: 58, Users: 2. -- Pardon?

uli wrote:

My CSS is pretty dirty, but copying it over to Stylish surely won’t harm your poor foxes.

I see. The same, just… bluer. You’re right that splashes of yellow wouldn’t go amiss.


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