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Re: Flexible images with CSS
You’re probably right, which means it’s not very good design as it stands, despite the improved functionality. Nothing there was evident to suggest to veteran users that those were interactive dropdowns. I’ll have to go back and look again, but I don’t recall there being any arrows or whatever one would expect in such case. It was just a ‘whoah, big problem’ shocker.
Admittedly, I’m not very good about reading change logs. Still…
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Re: Flexible images with CSS
Destry wrote:
Nothing there was evident to suggest to veteran users that those were interactive dropdowns. I’ll have to go back and look again…
I looked, and I stand corrected. This time I see the little plus signs. I must need glasses.
Thanks, Uli!
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Re: Flexible images with CSS
Destry wrote:
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Re: Flexible images with CSS
Destry wrote:
You’re probably right, which means it’s not very good design as it stands, despite the improved functionality. Nothing there was evident to suggest to veteran users that those were interactive dropdowns.
I don’t recall there being any arrows or whatever one would expect in such case.
I looked, and I stand corrected. This time I see the little plus signs. I must need glasses.
Too funny. I can tell you’re a mac user. :-D
We were just discussing +/- and arrows
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Re: Flexible images with CSS
Destry wrote:
You’re probably right, which means it’s not very good design as it stands
OT: This is what worried me about doing it in the first place. If it is bad design, please suggest improvements (despite using arrows instead of +/-, which I think we’ll do anyway). Alternatively I can pretty easily revert to the old two-column mrthod at the expense of a little lost horizontal real estate. All I was trying to do was make the textarea a bit wider and allow people to fold away form types they don’t use much. It seems to have caused untold problems so perhaps this is one change that should be rescinded… if you have any further thoughts, throw them on the +/- thread that maverick linked to. Ta!
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Re: Flexible images with CSS
I probably should have said something like ‘not clearly executed’, rather than “not very good design.” Hope nobody took offense.
I like the new functionality. Don’t change that back.
I’m not a fan of the +/- signs, though. What my subconscious probably did was immediately evaluate them as bullets, and so my conscious side looked right over them and panicked. Plus/minus signs always remind me of navigating file trees, which, while analogous, never seems like the right context.
I like arrows, and especially arrows that can also be clicked to trigger the expand/collapse action; not separately from the text, but as a whole region. For example, making them a background on the header anchor, putting a display:block on it for added hot real estate (with top/bottom padding?), and maybe a hover change on the graphic to point arrow down. That way if someone hovers they see the intended action without clicking. Something like that?
I wouldn’t worry too much about the default presentation outside of just making it a bit more clear. Once TXP 5 rolls around, I’m sure there’s going to be an explosion of admin-side themes. :)
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