[solved] Month names in Polish

poczciwy · 2010-08-15 13:21:45

Hello, it’s my first post :)

Textpattern doesn’t properly use Polish month names. When we describe date using day, month and (optional) year, then we use:

ordinal number for day: 15. (with dot! – it means 15th),
month name in genitive case: sierpnia (starting with a lower case).
For example:
15. sierpnia
15. sierpnia 2010 (it means 15th day of August. 15 sierpień means August number 15)
sierpnia 15., 2010 (not using)

When we describe date without day (e.g. August 2010), then we use month name (starting with lower case) in nominative case, for example:

sierpień 2010

It’s possible to fix this problem?

btw list of month names:

english	January	February	March	April	May	June
nominative	styczeń	luty	marzec	kwiecień	maj	czerwiec
genitive	stycznia	lutego	marca	kwietnia	maja	czerwca

english	July	August	September	October	November	December
nominative	lipiec	sierpień	wrzesień	październik	listopad	grudzień
genitive	lipca	sierpnia	września	października	listopada	grudnia

Last edited by poczciwy (2010-08-16 06:56:03)

ruud · 2010-08-15 14:50:21

It’s not Textpattern, but PHP that generates the date strings, see: http://php.net/strftime
I don’t think strftime can make the distinction between nominative and genitive month names. You’d need a %OB format character for that and support from the OS. Here’s what I found about OS support:

* Solaris 10:
   * does not understand %OB
   * %B seems to return the genitive form
   * the "short" locale names seem to link to the non-utf8 forms (iso-8859-1 or so)
   * encoding seems to match the locale charset
   * all Serbian variants are cyrillic
 * FreeBSD 6.2, 7.0, 7.2:
   * understands %OB, which is usually the nominative form of month names
   * %B has the genitive form (modulo bugs, see the Croatian locale)
   * encoding matches the locale charset
   * the ISO8859-2 variant of Serbian is latin, all others are cyrillic
   * it seems that all of locales are installed by default
 * Linux (debian lenny):
   * does not understand %OB
   * encoding seems to match the locale charset
 * Linux (debian etch):
   * does not understand %OB
   * %B returns the nominative form (at least for Croatian)
   * encoding seems to match the locale charset
   * the "short" locale names seem to link to the non-utf8 forms (iso-8859-1 or so)
 * Linux (s390x-linux):
   * does not understand %OB
   * %B returns the nominative form (at least for Bosnian and Czech)
   * the @euro form seems to be the same like the "short" locale (that is, iso-8859-15 or so)
 * OpenBSD 4.5:
   * does not seem to have the "locales -a" command, so only the default locale was tested
   * understands %OB, contents (genitive vs. nominative) unclear
 * Darwin 8:
   * understands %OB, and seems to have the same bugs as the FreeBSD version
     (Croatian locale)
   * encoding matches the locale charset
   * the ISO8859-2 variant of Serbian is latin, all others are cyrillic
   * it seems that all of locales are installed by default
 * MSWin32:
   * does not understand %OB
 * cygwin:
   * does not seem to have the "locales -a" command, so only the default locale was tested
   * understands %OB, contents (genitive vs. nominative) unclear
 * irix 6.5:
   * does not understand %OB
   * does not have utf-8 locales, but iso-8859-15 locales
   * the non-latin-1 locales (latin2, russian) don't have an encoding spec in its
     locale name, so detecting the encoding must be done through an heuristic

poczciwy · 2010-08-15 17:39:01

I guessed that is caused by php – there is no month names in languages files in textpattern instalation. Solution is adding new functionality to textpattern – month names declesion (if there are other languages with this problem) – or creating a plugin.
A few years ago the same problems had users of wordpress. They choose plugin solution . I intend to look at this, but actually I’m not familiar with php ;)

uli · 2010-08-16 01:10:01

poczciwy wrote:

They choose plugin solution

May I suggest one: rah_replace

Example:

<txp:rah_replace from="styczeń,luty,etc" to="stycznia,lutego,etc">
	<txp:posted format="%d. %B %Y" />
</txp:rah_replace>

This covers at least the client side.

Last edited by uli (2010-08-16 01:10:12)

poczciwy · 2010-08-16 06:54:11

It works!
Thanks uli, you are great

uli · 2010-08-16 10:28:02

I pass it on to Gocom, the plugin author.

Gocom · 2010-08-16 12:27:12

Someone said “Gocom”? ;-)

maniar · 2010-08-16 14:07:35

Now this is something I was looking for to replace the date names to Arabic ! W00T ! :-)

uli · 2010-08-16 22:57:20

maniar wrote:

Now this is something I was looking for to replace the date names to Arabic ! W00T ! :-)

<txp:rah_replace from="styczeń" to=" كانُون  الثَّانِي">
	<txp:posted format="%d. %B %Y" />
</txp:rah_replace>

;-)

Gocom · 2010-08-17 00:05:53

I bet it can’t do lolcats.

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[solved] Month names in Polish

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