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bici · 2010-05-28 17:37:14

floodfish wrote:

Thanks, Giovanni!
What exactly would that tutorial include?
But an equally large site for a different publication might well have different needs. So I wonder what could be distilled into a useful tutorial?
I will say that the biggest departure from Textpattern’s default scheme is the sense that a login ≠ the author of an article, and that an article can often have multiple authors or no authors.
Getting the related material in the article page sidebars working was a real beast: showing an arbitrary number of articles from an arbitrary number of categories or author(s) which are assigned to the current article, and being sure the the current article isn’t among them.
As to a book, well … feel free to put any publishers in touch!

FloodFish … first the difference of non-commercial / commercial is a small quibble.. the idea is that they are both for “customers”

The power of the tutorial would be in the way that you have extended and pushed the boundaries of Textpattern. I can see great value in that…. i.e. learning from example.

For a book it would have to be somewhat be more generalized. But again pushing teh boundaries and perhasp you could break it in chapters that covers the basic to the more robust features and use of plug-ins. You would be in essence documentating the steps you too kto building out your excellent new site.

As for Publishers? I wish these folks would work with you! pragprog.com

I bought two books from them.

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candyman · 2010-05-28 18:43:06

n+1 magazine for dummies: it would be very useful to see how so many plugins can work together!

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maverick · 2010-06-01 04:35:25

floodfish wrote:

So I wonder what could be distilled into a useful tutorial?

Perhaps thinking of it as part case study/part TxpTips how-tos? :-)

floodfish wrote:

I will say that the biggest departure from Textpattern’s default scheme is the sense that a login ≠ the author of an article, and that an article can often have multiple authors or no authors.

Would you be willing to elaborate on how you achieved this?

Thanks

Mike

jstubbs · 2010-06-01 05:50:19

Any tutorials for TXP Tips are welcome!

candyman · 2010-06-01 06:06:56

floodfish wrote:
So I wonder what could be distilled into a useful tutorial?

The case study maybe is asking too much but a step-by-step tutorial which shows how to customize the TXP edit page (css modifications included) according your own needs would be great!

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maverick · 2010-06-01 06:30:33

candyman wrote:

The case study maybe is asking too much but a step-by-step tutorial which shows how to customize the TXP edit page (css modifications included) according your own needs would be great!

Fair point. I should have been more clear. When I said case study, I didn’t mean a traditional case study, rather I was thinking more along the lines of “the client needed multiple authors, or no authors. This was achieved by doing this, this, and this”. Or The client needed a customized write page with x textboxes. To create it, we did 1. 2. 3. 4. 5.

candyman · 2010-06-01 10:53:56

In this way would be perfect. Let’s hope Jason can find the time.
By the way, even latest jacok’s site has some interesting solutions that may become a good starting point for txp beginners. Obviously works like these need a lot amount of time: we could think about ransom tutorials like some plugins that’ve been released after meeting a quote. A sort of “Tutorial Request” made by txp gurus and stored at txptips.

jakob · 2010-06-01 12:36:22

I tend to agree with Jason in that both his write page and the backend you linked to in my thread are custom solutions closely related to the users’ particular needs and therefore lose meaning when abstracted to a generalised approach. As Jason intimated, that’s a part of why we are hired to develop a solution. My backend variant is for non-txp-users to use (they don’t need to know about txp at all) but it’s not beginner’s territory to set up and both Stef and Manfre updated their plugins to make it possible, so I imagine it hasn’t been attempted like that before.

But tutorials for individual aspects like maverick suggests would be possible to write tutorials for individual aspects, though. Ransom tutorials: an interesting idea, but I think it may start undermining the principle of sharing knowledge and may also lead to unrealistic tutorial requests (“50$ for how to set up a community site with this, that and the other”). When I get some time, I’ll write a post on our txpbuilders blog on different client workflow approaches.

BTW: Jason gave you a fairly good answer in his earlier post. If you install rss_unlimited_categories you get pretty close to what you see in the sidebar (Jason has a lot of categories and sub-categories). The most tutorial-worthy element is using jquery to shift the position of the textarea custom fields that were set up with glz_custom_fields.

candyman · 2010-06-01 13:15:57

You’re right. The custom textareas are the most difficult part. I’ll ask about these if I’ll find troubles.

redbot · 2010-06-01 13:56:57

jakob wrote:

…. The most tutorial-worthy element is using jquery to shift the position of the textarea custom fields that were set up with glz_custom_fields.

candyman wrote:

….The custom textareas are the most difficult part. I’ll ask about these if I’ll find troubles.

Ehm… I don’t want to sound self-promotional but actually all you need is glz_custom_field and bot_write_tab_customize for this.
With glz_custom you can create how many textarea-custom fields as you want.
Once done this bot_wtc allows – among other things – two kinds of basic actions:

move items around (FYI I’m talking about every page item – not only custom fields)
hide on a per-section basis such items.

Combining these two behaviours you can obtain a totally diffferent look and functionality for each section.
For example you can have section “blog” which behaves like a default txp page (title – excerpt – body etc.) and a section “books” which shows only a title, some select input and a text area – all positioned the way you like.

For a perfect result add some custom css, ied_hide_in_admin and rah_for_each_section to the mix.

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candyman · 2010-06-01 15:16:53

Many thanks, redbot! My goal is different look according to section: I’ll try bot_wtc, the others are already installed.

philwareham · 2010-06-02 12:03:19

Looks fantastic, very impressed. Can I ask what plugin you used to let authors know the maximum character count they can use in a textfield? That would be very useful for my clients.

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floodfish · 2010-06-04 17:40:51

I thank jakob and redbot for their answers above. Most of what I did should be pretty easy to grasp if you’ve got bot_wtc and rss_unlimited_categories installed.

— I will say that the biggest departure from Textpattern’s default scheme is the sense that a login ≠ the author of an article, and that an article can often have multiple authors or no authors.
Would you be willing to elaborate on how you achieved this?

The authors on the front-end area all categories. The system authors/logins don’t appear anywhere. With unlimited categories, an article can have unlimited authors, and author archive/bio pages are just another kind of category page.

Can I ask what plugin you used to let authors know the maximum character count they can use in a textfield?

That’s this jQuery plugin applied via the “Additional js code” field in bot_wtc.

maverick · 2010-06-04 18:41:05

floodfish wrote:

— I will say that the biggest departure from Textpattern’s default scheme is the sense that a login ≠ the author of an article, and that an article can often have multiple authors or no authors.
Would you be willing to elaborate on how you achieved this?

The authors on the front-end area all categories. The system authors/logins don’t appear anywhere. With unlimited categories, an article can have unlimited authors, and author archive/bio pages are just another kind of category page.

Thanks! That approach gives me some food for thought :)

Mike

Textpattern CMS

Textpattern CMS support forum

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