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#1 2009-12-13 11:38:43

Destry
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Urgent call to action from creator of MySQL

This seems like a pretty serious situation, folks. Small websites and nonprofits depend on MySQL; they can’t afford and don’t need a huge, commercial db. And what will this mean for CMS projects like Txp?

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#2 2009-12-13 12:24:53

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Re: Urgent call to action from creator of MySQL

Blimey! That can’t be good!


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#3 2009-12-13 18:15:28

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Re: Urgent call to action from creator of MySQL

MySQL is an open source DB that can be easily forked. I wouldn’t be worried.

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#4 2009-12-13 18:21:48

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Re: Urgent call to action from creator of MySQL

I’m with Eric.

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#5 2009-12-13 20:10:48

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Re: Urgent call to action from creator of MySQL

There’s also a link to an interesting point of view regarding the viability of a fork.

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#6 2009-12-14 00:16:33

Destry
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Re: Urgent call to action from creator of MySQL

The link maverick mentioned: HERE

The argument against the feasibility of forking MySQL is point “B” in that article. The argument is based on “economics”, and the argument is plausible.

At any rate, I didn’t send a letter to the EC. I can’t find the enthusiasm in me.

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#7 2009-12-14 10:33:15

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Re: Urgent call to action from creator of MySQL

I don’t much like it when things like this surface; especially when there’s clear conflict of interests. Regardless that I believe Oracle (the DB) to be a slow, lumbering, bloated heap of badly-written crap, Oracle (the company) probably has enough money to buy every member of the EC outright if they wanted to. No morals when it comes to money… bah!

This saga does, however, strengthen Mary’s argument over using PDO in Textpattern so we are not tied to one database vendor, and thus tied to whichever power/entity currently controls it.


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#8 2009-12-14 14:06:47

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Re: Urgent call to action from creator of MySQL

TheEric wrote:

MySQL is an open source DB that can be easily forked. I wouldn’t be worried.

Drizzle is one of such forks, there are others hiding in the catacombs of the web waiting to see what happens with the Oracle buyout of Sun.

The beauty of Open Source is that no matter what happens, the code belongs to us all.

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#9 2009-12-14 18:05:56

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Re: Urgent call to action from creator of MySQL

Maybe they’ll work it out.


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#10 2009-12-16 01:16:04

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Re: Urgent call to action from creator of MySQL

PostgreSQL is also an option. But I don’t think it will come to that.


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#11 2010-02-21 13:44:52

Destry
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Re: Urgent call to action from creator of MySQL

Well, Sun is no more, and I don’t know if this has anything do do with Oracle or not but I can’t download a damn copy of MySQL 5.1.44 64bit for Mac 10.6 without having to give a whole slough of personal data, which apparently will take 7 days to process. WTF?

This was never a problem before.

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#12 2010-02-21 13:52:27

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Re: Urgent call to action from creator of MySQL

So, any decision on the refactoring to PDO Bloke referenced? I’m not such a sunny optimist as to find comfort in the “it’s open source, there’ll be a fork, things will be fine” POV.

Edit: Looking over the linked thread, there’s a pretty strong suggestion that this is intended for “Txp 5”. Is this in development?

Last edited by jsoo (2010-02-21 13:55:14)


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