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Urgent call to action from creator of MySQL
This seems like a pretty serious situation, folks. Small websites and nonprofits depend on MySQL; they can’t afford and don’t need a huge, commercial db. And what will this mean for CMS projects like Txp?
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Blimey! That can’t be good!
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MySQL is an open source DB that can be easily forked. I wouldn’t be worried.
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I’m with Eric.
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There’s also a link to an interesting point of view regarding the viability of a fork.
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The link maverick mentioned: HERE
The argument against the feasibility of forking MySQL is point “B” in that article. The argument is based on “economics”, and the argument is plausible.
At any rate, I didn’t send a letter to the EC. I can’t find the enthusiasm in me.
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I don’t much like it when things like this surface; especially when there’s clear conflict of interests. Regardless that I believe Oracle (the DB) to be a slow, lumbering, bloated heap of badly-written crap, Oracle (the company) probably has enough money to buy every member of the EC outright if they wanted to. No morals when it comes to money… bah!
This saga does, however, strengthen Mary’s argument over using PDO in Textpattern so we are not tied to one database vendor, and thus tied to whichever power/entity currently controls it.
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TheEric wrote:
MySQL is an open source DB that can be easily forked. I wouldn’t be worried.
Drizzle is one of such forks, there are others hiding in the catacombs of the web waiting to see what happens with the Oracle buyout of Sun.
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Maybe they’ll work it out.
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PostgreSQL is also an option. But I don’t think it will come to that.
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Well, Sun is no more, and I don’t know if this has anything do do with Oracle or not but I can’t download a damn copy of MySQL 5.1.44 64bit for Mac 10.6 without having to give a whole slough of personal data, which apparently will take 7 days to process. WTF?
This was never a problem before.
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So, any decision on the refactoring to PDO Bloke referenced? I’m not such a sunny optimist as to find comfort in the “it’s open source, there’ll be a fork, things will be fine” POV.
Edit: Looking over the linked thread, there’s a pretty strong suggestion that this is intended for “Txp 5”. Is this in development?
Last edited by jsoo (2010-02-21 13:55:14)
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Destry wrote:
Well, Sun is no more, and I don’t know if this has anything do do with Oracle or not but I can’t download a damn copy of MySQL 5.1.44 64bit for Mac 10.6 without having to give a whole slough of personal data, which apparently will take 7 days to process. WTF?
No problems here. I reach this page, which shows some kind of login box and under it, a link » No thanks, just take me to the downloads!’
Follow that link and download what you need.
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Destry, MySQL accounts are and were optional. You can of course register and wait for the week as they do validate all site user accounts. Yes, it’s user account to the forums, not something that is used to limit downloading. EVen that the site makes it seem that way (but it also describes what the acount is for) ;)
The download mirrors are right there (on the same page as always were, hidden with fancy JavaScript effects) as Philippe said.
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Schooled.
Thanks Philippe. Yep, there’s clearly some usability issues with that link’s design and placement. Hell, with that site, period.
Gocom, one of the first things Oracle should do, if it wants to do some good, is redesign that site. A person shouldn’t have to stop and read/scour the website to get a simple download. I’ve only had to go there…I can’t even remember…I think 2008 was the last time so I don’t have its particularities memorized. Nevertheless, I’m not a web novice. In fact UX is up my alley, so there’s clearly some problems with that site. When that site loads, I should be presented with a clear, direct path for Download > Mirrors > France > File without reading anything except the path cues. Interfering me with opting out of the forum is bad practice, and they’ve executed the design poorly, if it wasn’t intentional.
But like I said, “schooled.” And thank you. :)
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