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#25 2007-03-13 13:30:13

squaredeye
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Re: Does Textpattern.com need a new look?

maniqui wrote:

  • What is wrong (if anything) with the current Textpattern.com design?
  • What could be the real benefits (or cons) for the community/dev-team/TxP itself of modifying the Textpattern.com site look&feel?

not great:
  • It lacks finesse
  • The typography is the most dominant element on the page, and even though I’m not a pro in typography, I would suggest it needs work to have a better “tempo” and rythm.
benefits:
  • attract a larger base of users to a solid community
  • more users means more solutions/plugins/templates
  • more users means more funding for improvements to core or large plugins (possibly)

Ultimately, Zem is absolutely right. I use TXP because of the structure, tagging system, logic, etc. not because it looks pretty with the default install. This posture makes TXP a better setup for a developer than a wordpress type blogger.

IMO.

Matthew


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#26 2007-03-14 00:54:17

Jeremie
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Re: Does Textpattern.com need a new look?

It also lack a xhtml strict validation, and some better/cleaner code and semantic. Not a huge thing, but some people looking for a web software check this first (and the software own webpage is pretty much what they’re looking at).

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#27 2007-03-14 18:31:50

maniqui
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Re: Does Textpattern.com need a new look?

I’m agree with you, Jeremie.
The site fully validates in XHTML transitional.
To validate in XHTML strict it needs just a little change because there are still some target:_blank in the source.

I also agree about the semantics of the current site, but as you said, it’s not a huge point and it can easily be improved.

But the true is that beyond its look&feel, Textpattern.com is a bit outdated, both the text and the images. Is it the time to update and improve it and change its aesthetics? I think it will be a waste of time and efforts right now.
When Textpattern 4.1 is released, I think it will be the time to re-think and re-release Textpattern.com, with fresh content.

About the look&feel, I would like to see something simple, similar (in concept and simplicity) to the current design.


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#28 2007-03-15 10:07:06

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Re: Does Textpattern.com need a new look?

I think one of the biggest flaws in Textpattern sites is how scattered around resources are. Clients are already confused by the fact there is a .com .org .net each performing different functions. I always have to give people 10 or so links when introducing them to Textpattern.

This is just a bit of fantasy but if we had something like this site where everything feels like part of the same thing (Development, plugins, wiki, forums, docs, themes and a google coop search where people could add their sites). I’m not suggesting we move all domains into one but if they have the same look and top menu bar.

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#29 2007-03-15 11:37:24

Jeremie
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Re: Does Textpattern.com need a new look?

FireFusion wrote:

I’m not suggesting we move all domains into one but if they have the same look and top menu bar.

Well, I am (suggesting this), and have been.

It would be a big help for the newcomers, and only require the main webmaster to relinquish control over some subdomain (and their jailed ssh/sftp, I’m assuming Joyent’s Accelerator can jail) and give new subdomain for new projects.

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#30 2007-03-15 13:22:31

hakjoon
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Re: Does Textpattern.com need a new look?

They are all on the same server already. All it would take is some httpd.conf changes.

I am also a fan of the unified domain. Textbook has already moved to textbook.textpattern.net. It makes much more sense for it to be textbook.textpattern.com

Last edited by hakjoon (2007-03-15 13:23:55)


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#31 2007-04-14 15:33:42

FireFusion
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Re: Does Textpattern.com need a new look?

Check out the mootools or Pylons sites. Good examples of having it all under one roof.

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#32 2007-04-14 17:27:09

jm
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Registered: 2005-11-27
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Re: Does Textpattern.com need a new look?

I’m in favor of consolidating domains too. I kinda wish the community and resource sites could be combined too, such as textpattern.org, textile, txpmanual, textgarden, txplanet.net, but that’s just me. Most of all, a unified design between the main site and wiki would be appreciated (ex: Overture21).

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