Does Textpattern.com need a new look?

hcgtv · 2007-03-12 17:58:05

ma_smith wrote:

… and given the fact that the dev team is a more ‘private’ group than an ‘open’ one (again not a commentary, just a note), I still stick by my first premise :)

Yes, I do agree with your premise. I came upon Textpattern a little over a year ago, in the ensuing months I’ve seen certain regulars participating less and ultimately some leaving for other pastures.

Of course, this is a given on Open Source projects, people come and go. But from their departing notes you come away with the feeling that they would of hung around if they had more influence in the outcome. Which is what this thread is all about, the TxP home page.

I don’t know the answer, but we need more people involved than just Zem and Mary in the core.

Jeremie · 2007-03-12 18:04:41

hcgtv wrote:

I don’t know the answer, but we need more people involved than just Zem and Mary in the core.

It’s not really the point here. We could redesign the websites without their involvement, if they don’t want to.

And on the core dev team, does anyone want in? I think it’s the first thing to ask.

squaredeye · 2007-03-12 18:10:34

I have received more help from some of the dev team than I know what to do with, and so I say the following without any disdain, but simply out of open thinking, but I am really surprised that there hasn’t been a fork from this system given your comments above, which I sympathize with. I would personally love to have a stronger input into the outcome of the TXP project OR see a greater level of transparency from the devs in terms of where things are going…

I don’t blame the devs for their stance. Without a model to facilitate their time being payed for in some fashion or another, I’m not surprised that things are the way they are, which is quite good in comparison to many systems.

hakjoon · 2007-03-12 18:25:18

I’ve come to accept that this is the way things are with Textpattern and I try to contribute how I can. ~~Although I have to say the rewards for time invested don’t really encourage more time.~~

~~A lot of the surrounding community infrastructure does not come from the dev team yet it is also important for TXP’s success.~~

~~Just as a counter point MODx is developed with the same guiding principle as TXP (the devs work on what will make their projects easier) yet there is a tremendous amount of transparency.~~

Edit: you know what we’ve been here before and it just is what it is.

Last edited by hakjoon (2007-03-12 18:27:59)

hcgtv · 2007-03-12 18:36:21

Jeremie wrote:

And on the core dev team, does anyone want in? I think it’s the first thing to ask.

That would have to be asked by the Dev Team.

ma_smith wrote:

I have received more help from some of the dev team than I know what to do with, and so I say the following without any disdain, but simply out of open thinking, but I am really surprised that there hasn’t been a fork from this system given your comments above, which I sympathize with.

Forking is easy, supporting it is another story and of course you have to have a reason to fork. What will you do that’s different – newer admin, easier for writers to enter content, better templating, etc.

hakjoon wrote:

Edit: you know what we’ve been here before and it just is what it is.

Yeah, that’s the post that got me wondering what I had gotten myself into :)

squaredeye · 2007-03-12 18:49:36

hakjoon wrote:

Edit: you know what we’ve been here before and it just is what it is.

Too true. And I agree wholeheartedly. It is what it is :) So Firefusion, did you get what you were looking for :))))
I think that’s it for me… I’m now laughing that I entertained these ideas again. Its a funny road to go down.

Jeremie · 2007-03-12 19:09:15

Yup, that was my reason for trying to re-focus the thread. Take a good look at it’s subject ;)

hcgtv · 2007-03-12 19:26:16

Jeremie wrote:

Yup, that was my reason for trying to re-focus the thread. Take a good look at it’s subject ;)

Ok, back on topic.

The Debian people get a lot of flack for keeping such a spartan look for their front page, in lieu of Ubuntu’s rise in popularity. I like the Textpattern front page, it’s what it is, a lean CMS tool and the emphasize is on tool.

FireFusion · 2007-03-12 22:12:09

I wasn’t suggesting at all that we have something just like EE’s site. I think just a new looks that stays simple but makes TXP more appealing and better organises things into clear sections.

squaredeye · 2007-03-12 22:32:57

Firefusion,
I agree.

maniqui · 2007-03-13 05:21:14

I don’t really have good (nor bad) arguments to answer FireFusion’s question.
I will simple reformulate the question to:

What is wrong (if anything) with the current Textpattern.com design?
What could be the real benefits (or cons) for the community/dev-team/TxP itself of modifying the Textpattern.com site look&feel?

As I said before (in the expired thread linked above), Textpattern is a zen thing (i don’t know what it means, hehe) and Zem seems not only to think the same but he also said:

Textpattern has a lively community because it is good, not because it is open source.

I would say: Textpattern is good and it certainly won’t be better just for having an stunning homepage.

Textpattern seems to be and old man who doesn’t seems to look so handsome and stronger as someone younger. The old man even looks very weak! But he is very calm and quiet and always smiling.
We all know the true: he has the kung-fu.

I’m not sure if I have reached a satori yet, but using Textpattern I have achieved some states very similar to an enlightenment.

Yeah… time to sleep…

gaza · 2007-03-13 13:17:24

I’m not sure. Once you try out Textpattern, and get it working just the way you want it to… it’s hard to think of using anything else. The flexibility is just amazing and can’t be found anywhere else.

The default template sucks, but it’s almost like a Zen monastery test… once you go ahead and move forward, even though you had your doubts, the reward of enlightenment comes to you.

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