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#1 2006-12-22 16:36:47

toul
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rename the "textpattern" folder

hi…there are some topics that try to explain how you can rename the “textpattern”-folder (with version 4.0.3). but i have txp 4.0.4 and all my attemps replacing the textpattern-string with the myadmin-string did fail.
maybe someone of this forum can help me out? i hope so….cause it’s christmas time!
cheers

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#2 2006-12-22 17:18:48

els
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Re: rename the "textpattern" folder

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#3 2006-12-22 19:23:46

toul
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Re: rename the "textpattern" folder

thanks Els! i have read your posted site… i already have used your link before i have posted my question here. i really cant use it. it’s for version 4.0.3. do you know if it does work with the latest txp-version?

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#4 2006-12-22 20:30:28

els
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Re: rename the "textpattern" folder

Sorry, I don’t know (maybe Mary will come along and enlighten us?). But following the instructions in the article, I suppose you could search all files in the TXP install for textpattern, and there where it is part of a filepath, change it to your folder’s new name.
But are you sure you want to do this? You’d have to modify the files every time you upgrade Textpattern.

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#5 2006-12-22 21:56:51

hcgtv
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Re: rename the "textpattern" folder

Join the me too’s :)

If this ever gets implemented, it will most likely happen in Crockery, the 4.0 series appears to be feature frozen. I looked at making the changes but that would require the mods be applied at every 4.0.x release. Now if 4.0.5 is the last of the series, then we could mod it and be done with it.

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#6 2006-12-22 23:38:17

mrdale
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Re: rename the "textpattern" folder

OK, I’ve used a symbolic link to textpattern called “edit” for ages now. just tell other users to go to TLD.com/edit.

works like a charm… or did I miss something?

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#7 2006-12-23 01:41:14

Mary
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Re: rename the "textpattern" folder

Now if 4.0.5 is the last of the series, then we could mod it and be done with it.

It’s not likely – it can and will be patched anytime bugs (or god forbid, security vulnerabilities) are found.

It would happen in crockery, if and when it is decided that it will be done at all.

To any passing-by beginners: keep in mind that when you modify core files, you are giving up assistance from the developers when something goes wrong. (If that seems crappy, just think about it: we’ve got no way of knowing what you’ve modified, if you’ve introduced a new bug by the change, etc.)

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#8 2006-12-23 01:49:16

mrdale
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Re: rename the "textpattern" folder

Any thoughts on using a symbolic link mary? The only reason I do this is that “edit” is esaier for my clients to remember than “textpattern”.

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#9 2006-12-23 02:10:49

Mary
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Re: rename the "textpattern" folder

Thoughts? (i.e.: what exactly are you asking?)

Should it work? Yes. Will that break anything? I don’t think so, unless there were a problem with your server. Would I recommend it? Not to a beginner – who wouldn’t even know what that is – but yes, it is better than modifying files, definitely. Just if your Txp admin stops working completely, you would need to start there, with your host, rather than us.

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#10 2006-12-23 02:16:05

mrdale
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Re: rename the "textpattern" folder

Mary wrote:

Thoughts? (i.e.: what exactly are you asking?)

mrdale wondered if there was a good reason that he hadn’t thought of as to why a symbolic link would functionally be a bad idea. And whether it might not be a simpler and more elegant approach than hacking a standard install within an inch of it’s life.

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#11 2006-12-23 05:14:10

hcgtv
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Re: rename the "textpattern" folder

Mary wrote:

It’s not likely – it can and will be patched anytime bugs (or god forbid, security vulnerabilities) are found.

I’ve been following SVN for quite some time now, I actually run a live site off of it and I use it on a daily basis. From 4.0.3 to 4.0.4, a lot changed and it was rather welcome. Bugs were reported, they were fixed in a timely manner and a release finally came out. The road from 4.0.4 to 4.0.5 has been rather confusing since now all focus has apparently shifted to Crockery.

Mary wrote:

To any passing-by beginners: keep in mind that when you modify core files, you are giving up assistance from the developers when something goes wrong.

Now this leaves those of us that know that the 4.0.x series is feature frozen and would like to apply our own changes to this branch in a bit of a quandary. Renaming the textpattern folder is something I really want to do for my installs, I was ready to do it after 4.0.4 but SVN keeps changing.

The difference from 4.0 to 4.1 is more than a revision change, it’s a licensing change. With Crockery being in “When it’s ready mode”, where does that leave us that want to add features to the stable branch?

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#12 2006-12-23 08:22:48

toul
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Re: rename the "textpattern" folder

@mrdale: “The only reason I do this is that “edit” is esaier for my clients to remember than “textpattern”.”

yes. that’s what i thought too. so i start another try…

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#13 2006-12-23 08:34:06

Mary
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Re: rename the "textpattern" folder

…and would like to apply our own changes to this branch in a bit of a quandary. Renaming the textpattern folder is something I really want to do for my installs, I was ready to do it after 4.0.4 but SVN keeps changing.

There are still a handful of important bugs to fix in 4.0.x. Once we have 4.0.5, things will calm down. But any software worth it’s salt will invariably have to be updated from time to time, that’s just the nature of it.

I’m not sure I understand where the quandry enters in that instance, though. If you’re running the latest stable, you apply your changes. If you’re running off svn, you can do the same. The whole idea behind svn is that you can merge changes and fix conflicts so…

…since now all focus has apparently shifted to Crockery.

That has been the plan since long before I joined the dev team. The purpose is to allow users to continue to run and use 4.0 for some time to come and still receive support and bug fixes.

Once there is a release for 4.1, there will be two different stable lines running, and they will in many ways be very different animals (they already are in some respects). You will be able to upgrade if you want (and I think you will), but you won’t have to.

With Crockery being in “When it’s ready mode”, where does that leave us that want to add features to the stable branch?

Currently: waiting, because the only stable branch right now is “closed”, as it were. If you want to add new features, you submit patches to crockery.

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#14 2006-12-23 09:27:38

Sencer
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Re: rename the "textpattern" folder

I am sorry, I don’t get what the quandry is at all. Are you saying that you would prefer it, if we stopped fixing bugs, and checking in anything to the 4.0.x branch? I don’t see how that would be helpful, and sory, it’s not going to happen for a while. But for you personally, if you do not care for fixes and want to maintain your own branch anyhow, why not simply do so – I don’t see how us providing fixes and support has somehow worsened your situation.

I am guessing I misread your post, so I am looking forward to being corrected. ;)

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#15 2006-12-23 17:09:30

hcgtv
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Re: rename the "textpattern" folder

Mary wrote:

There are still a handful of important bugs to fix in 4.0.x.

Would you have a list of these important bugs?

Sencer wrote:

But for you personally, if you do not care for fixes and want to maintain your own branch anyhow, why not simply do so – I don’t see how us providing fixes and support has somehow worsened your situation.

Well, from what Mary said, if we make changes to the core files, then we give up support. Mary runs a heavily modified PunBB forum, if she has any issues with it, she is more than welcome on the support forums.

Crockery is a ways away, all patches submitted are being applied to it. So we have no choice but to tweak the stable branch if we want custom sites. But if I tweak, then I give up being able to submit bug reports, is that what I gather?

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