Ubuntu 6.06 LTS

shishira · 2006-07-23 14:19:39

have been using Kubuntu since 5 months now, didn’t like the default Gnome . . . now i have Konqueror and Opera both of which have passed the acid test …

hcgtv · 2006-07-23 17:28:51

Looks like we crashed the Ubuntu domains ;)

I was on their forums yesterday and the amount of traffic it gets is astronomical.

macgyver · 2006-07-24 03:08:44

I have to say Ubuntu rocks \m/. As a matter of fact I just dumped my G4/20 Cinema Display and switched back to Linux.. I switched from Gentoo to OS X when I got a sweet deal on the G4 a while back. While I was running Gentoo as my only OS I purchased an iBook when OS X came out on BSD. I’ve loved it ever since.

However the cost of owning a Mac as opposed to an x86 machine running Linux drove me to the decision to dump OS X … for now. I’ve always been preferred Linux/*BSD over MS, don’t get me wrong I am not a Windows hater, it has it’s place ( at work ) :).

Coming from having installed DedRat 6.1 and having built Linux from scratch, I have to give Ubuntu it’s props. The ease of installation is awesome, and I must say everthing, cept for DRM’d music works without a hitch.

I remember the pain of recompiling my kernel and installing drivers just to get my wireless card to work. I plugged in my DigiCam and gphoto2 picked up automagically.. my jaw dropped.

Give it a try.. it won’t hurt. :)

Anark · 2006-07-26 09:16:12

In my personal experience, the “It Just Works” chorus line is a bit of an overstatement. I first tried Ubuntu a bit more than a year ago, about the time when Debian Sarge came out. It just wouldn’t install though and I ended up using plain-vanilla Sarge instead.

I’ve just installed Ubuntu 6.06 on a Sony Vaio and it wasn’t easy either — neither of the two iso images on offer wanted to install, so after much tinkering I tried a 5.10 iso and did a dist-upgrade from there, which worked fine. Now I’m struggling with a wireless issue that just won’t go away.

According to the press at the time, 2004 was supposed to be the Year of Desktop Linux — maybe it’s finally beginning to happen: my impression of the Ubuntu forums is that they’re a lot busier than a year ago and that there are far fewer knowledgeable users lending a hand. The disto might be up to something with its commercial support.

Sencer · 2006-07-26 09:55:54

Well, have you ever tried doing a fresh install of WindowsXP on a PC or worse Notebook? I am not talking about OEM-ready made restore stuff, but a plain XP-CD. I have – and it is a lot more trouble getting and installing the drivers. Ubuntu, and Linux in general, comes with wider hardware support out of the box than XP.
But I understand what you are saying. I was lucky enough, that all my hardware was suported without twiddling. For me it was plug and play. It’s not that way for everybody. And unless hardware-manufacturers make a little effort, some people will always feel left out (for a while, until hw-support catches up).

Nevermind the press – according to them Linux has been just short of a breaking-through on desktops for at least 7-8 years now. :D

hcgtv · 2006-07-26 12:15:14

Anark wrote:

I’ve just installed Ubuntu 6.06 on a Sony Vaio and it wasn’t easy either

One of the biggest mistakes I ever made was buying a Sony Vaio, it’s a PCV-L640, a cross between a desktop and a laptop.

It came with Windows 98 and Sony assumed that it would run 98 for the life of the system. I had a time getting Windows XP on it, no drivers from Sony to be found when I did the upgrade and their support s*cks. The last piece of the puzzle was getting the damn fan to quiet down, Sony had this driver that only worked with 98, glad I found a utility called SpeedFan.

Would Ubuntu install on my Sony without a hitch, I really doubt it.

NyteOwl · 2006-07-26 21:06:27

Would Ubuntu install on my Sony without a hitch, I really doubt it.

You might be surprised. A friend installed Slack on a Vaio (560 I tihnk) and went with very little trouble. Wireless was a bit sticky as Ir ecall but all the main bits worked fine right off.

Anark · 2006-07-27 21:33:11

El Reg sez: Ubuntu heads for the mainstream.

Added to modify: Google trend history for Ubuntu, Debian, Redhat, Fedora, Suse (inspired by above).

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net-carver · 2006-08-05 11:45:09

Bert

Thanks for this thread, I’ve been following it silently for a bit and have now started playing with the live CD version of this and, as a Windows veteran (who tried dipping my toe into the linux pond a couple of times in the past, only to find the waters too murky to want to jump in) I have to say I am really, really, really impressed with this version. The live CD works with no tweaks on my hardware, something that Suse refused to do.

Compared to the DSLinux product, I much prefer the Ubuntu windowing and the total UI experience (probably not a fair comparison given the space restrictions on DSL though!)

In fact I like this distro so much I’m thinking of installing it and finally detaching myself from XP (Ok, I’d want to dual boot first just to be sure). I’ve gradually been detaching myself from MS with my application choices for a while – migrating from Outlook to TB, IE to FF, then MS Office to OpenOffice etc.

I’d be interested to hear of your experiences with this distro w.r.t the following…

XP and Ubuntu dual boot with grub. Is this viable now? Anyone had any trouble with the install and dual booting?
How easy is it to get a local AMP package installed? I have the impression (maybe wrong) that Apache on a debian base can be a bit tricky to configure – is that really the case?
I’d like a programmers editor that can equal or eclipse Notepad++ I’m checking out JEdit right now. Any other suggestions?
Security I’ve been used to running a personal firewall and virus checker on XP so wondering about recommendations about these products too.

Thanks in advance for any feedback.

[Edit]
Ok, I pretty much found the answers I was looking for regarding AMP and the firewall from this article. Any other feedback still appreciated.

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Sencer · 2006-08-05 14:15:05

net-carver wrote:

XP and Ubuntu dual boot with grub. Is this viable now? Anyone had any trouble with the install and dual booting?

It works. One thing you have to look out for: Do not delete or add partitions “in front of” your windows partition, or else Windows might refuse to boot and complain with nonsense “hal” something errors. However if it does happen, it can be easily fixed by adjusting a line in boot.ini on your windows partition (if you use NTFS as your partition types, then you should have a windows resuce/boot-cd available, because Linux will usually only mount ntfs as read-only).
Given that Ubuntu doesn’t care where it lives, you can safely add all linux partitions on the extended/logical partition.

How easy is it to get a local AMP package installed? I have the impression (maybe wrong) that Apache on a debian base can be a bit tricky to configure – is that really the case?

No, it’s the same as everything on debian-based system, the package manager will take care of just about everything – you simply choose the packages.
Though you probably do want to make sure afterwards that it is configured in a way to your liking (for example, do you want to bind apache+mysql only to localhost, or should they be available from the outside etc.). No difference in that respect to other (operating) systems.

Security I’ve been used to running a personal firewall and virus checker on XP so wondering about recommendations about these products too.

There is firestarter available as a package (easy enough to use), but you do not need it, because on a properly configured system there are no ports open that you do not want to be open. Ubuntu ships with no ports open (i.e. no software listening on any ports). Hence no gain by a firewall.
There is antivir for linux, and there is clamav for mailservers – however both of them are usually used to clean windows-viruses (either when functioning as a mailserver with windows clients, or when mounting windows partitions). Here is an article that talks about it Virus-Scanners & Linux:
Linux Virus Solutions in Search of a Problem

Can’t help you with the editor. The regular Text-editor “gedit” has plenty of features so that for casual to medium editing/programming you won’t miss anything. For people that need more control & features there’s always vim or emacs…

Last edited by Sencer (2006-08-05 14:15:34)

hcgtv · 2006-08-05 14:39:14

net-carver,

Sencer pretty much covered the topics, I’ll just briefly add my thoughts:

1. Grub recognized my Windows XP partition and added it as a menu option, it’s working great.

2. There’s an admin menu option to add packages. I would go with the latest: Apache2, MySQL 5.x and PHP 5 – most Open Source apps are running fine with this config, Textpattern included.

3. Gedit works just fine, it even has syntax highlighting.

4. Linux in general is more secure out of the box than Windows, very tightly wrapped. From a command line run nmap on localhost to see what ports are open, if any.

The Ubuntu forums are a wealth of info, as is their Wiki. I hung out on the forums for a few days before I took the plunge, there’s always gotchas, but in Ubuntu’s case, I didn’t read of any.

net-carver · 2006-08-06 15:24:06

Sencer, Bert

thanks for getting back to me on this one, some useful pointers in there. I’m looking forward to giving it a shot after a full backup.

Robert · 2006-08-06 17:21:57

I tinkered with Breezy Badger, but my sound card (Creative SoundBlaster X-Fi) is not supported under Linux. Creative claims a closed source driver will be available, probably for a fee, early in 2007. Other than that I had no problems. Although it did take me a few minutes to get my modem up and running. Yes, that’s right I still use dial up.

net-carver · 2006-08-08 03:59:41

Bert, Sencer,

I’m now running with Dapper – and very happy with it. I actually think the install is easier than a Win 9x — can’t compare with XP though as that was pre-installed on my hardware. I can even use power management on the laptop now (something that XP failed to do!)

Gradually moving apps/data over now.

Thanks once again!

NyteOwl · 2006-08-08 21:55:03

Hmm I tried the Ubuntu Live CD on my Thinkpad and it totally bombed out. I’ll try a different one but so far nada.

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