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#1 2017-04-10 15:07:01

gaekwad
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RFC: official nginx support

Nginx now accounts for 33.3% of web server market share, and Apache httpd is declining.

It’s not beyond the realms of possibility that nginx usage will pass httpd usage in the next two or three years.

As I understand it, there’s an element of rewrite foo required to make the nginx equivalent of .htaccess, and not a huge amount more to do than that — but officially there’s no support on anything that’s not Apache httpd.

Can we talk about the practicalities of adding nginx support? What’s your 2c on this topic?

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#2 2017-04-10 15:37:01

Bloke
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Re: RFC: official nginx support

Yes, we should support it imo.

Fallout:

  • Setup checks for pre-requisites and initial setup of environment info.
  • RPC checks for its existence and calls getallheaders().
  • Diagnostics has lots of references/checks for Apache.
  • Language strings mention it by name.
  • A few constants reference Apache-specific values.
  • Lastmod / feeds have calculations that check for apache/gzip workarounds. No idea if this is still needed, but makss tweaked it recently, so presumably it’s still relevant.
  • As you say, we’d have to ship with a pair of rewrite files — .htaccess and .conf — and users would have to be savvy enough to choose which to change and upload to the server. Or, if it’s detectable and we have write access, we could rename them accordingly?
  • Documentation.

Nothing insurmountable. But the technical vagaries are currently beyond my area of expertise so we’d have to rely on Oleg / makss / Ruud or some other benevolent patch contributor to tool us up.


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#3 2017-04-10 17:09:06

gaekwad
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Re: RFC: official nginx support

(“not a huge amount more to do” was a bit weasel-wordy in hindsight, I’m not implying this will all magically happen overnight)

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#4 2017-04-10 19:09:24

philwareham
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Re: RFC: official nginx support

I can deal with the language strings and documentation if it were to happen. About all I can offer though.

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#5 2017-04-12 08:06:35

philwareham
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Re: RFC: official nginx support

Please open an issue for this, deserves consideration.

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#6 2017-04-12 08:30:01

gaekwad
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Re: RFC: official nginx support

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#7 2017-04-12 08:33:15

gaekwad
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Re: RFC: official nginx support

Bloke wrote #305292:

  • As you say, we’d have to ship with a pair of rewrite files — .htaccess and .conf — and users would have to be savvy enough to choose which to change and upload to the server. Or, if it’s detectable and we have write access, we could rename them accordingly?

When I last checked (and this was a couple of years ago) Apache ignores .conf files in the web server side, nginx ignores .htaccess files, so that might not be an issue.

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#8 2017-04-12 15:50:26

bici
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Re: RFC: official nginx support

is there some big advantage of ngnix over Apache?


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#9 2017-04-12 18:43:10

ruud
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Re: RFC: official nginx support

bici wrote #305307:

is there some big advantage of ngnix over Apache?

In some cases, yes. Google is your friend

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#10 2017-04-13 03:13:59

bici
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Re: RFC: official nginx support

well after reading the links i’m on the fence. i see no advantage of one over the other. but i like how someone explained to use both:

Using Apache and Nginx Together
After going over the benefits and limitations of both Apache and Nginx, you may have a better idea of which server is more suited to your needs. However, many users find that it is possible to leverage each server’s strengths by using them together.


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