Mild alterations to the Presentation tabs

thebombsite · 2010-03-13 22:01:44

Just a thought here now that we have a wider style textarea.

I know I’m now a “veteran” user of Textpattern and these things are no doubt useful to new users, but I find that I very rarely, and I really do mean rarely, use the tag builders. What about the idea of moving them below the textarea so that they are still available to those that need them but for those of us that don’t we could have a decent amount of extra width there?

kemie · 2010-03-15 11:01:21

Bloke wrote:

And continuing the monologue I think I’ve realised why <div>s and floated elements aren’t used in the real world… it’s because they’re too flaky across browsers

Answers / fixes / ideas / sympathy gladly received…

Hey Bloke, OF COURSE they+re used in the real world, but yea, they can be flakey at times. I+d love to help, if I can get my hands on some source code :)

Bloke · 2010-03-15 11:19:12

kemie wrote:

I+d love to help, if I can get my hands on some source code :)

I might hold you to that, thanks :-) I’ve got someone waaay better than me at CSS looking at it right now, but I really want to get this patch (among others) commited so everyone has a chance to play with it before 4.3.0 is released. If I don’t hear back from my current partner-in-style within a few days I’ll send you over some code.

thebombsite wrote:

What about the idea of moving [tagbuilders]

I don’t use them either. Currently, as part of a wider changeset, the page elements are all getting marked up a little better. You’ll be able to target that entire column more easily and can choose to a) shut it (or parts of it) off with a single CSS rule, or b) manipulate it with a line or two of jQuery. I’m considering option c) of making it pluggable_ui() aware so you can programmatically alter it as well, but I don’t know if it makes sense to do so yet: not thought it through.

Either way, as it stands, your themes will be able to use jQuery to tuck it away wherever takes your fancy. It’ll still be where it is now in the default theme, though.

the_ghost wrote:

Maybe it makes sense to place ? next to disabled checkboxes with description

Not a bad idea, thanks. Though we’re back with the checkboxes on the right now, and with the latest styling (no screenshot yet, sorry) it might not be necessary to put the disabled checkboxes in at all.

I’m going to play with it later on and see if we can get away without them, because there’s something about a permanently disabled checkbox that makes me cringe in terms of the user experience. Having to put another widget on-screen to explain why a particualr widget is set in a particular way probably means there’s a failure with the original widget in the first place :-)

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hcgtv · 2010-09-28 22:25:29

thebombsite wrote:

What about the idea of moving [tagbuilders]

Bloke wrote:

I don’t use them either. Currently, as part of a wider changeset, the page elements are all getting marked up a little better. You’ll be able to target that entire column more easily and can choose to a) shut it (or parts of it) off with a single CSS rule, or b) manipulate it with a line or two of jQuery. I’m considering option c) of making it pluggable_ui() aware so you can programmatically alter it as well, but I don’t know if it makes sense to do so yet: not thought it through.

Late to the party, testing 4.3.0 and I like the wider textarea in the Style tab.

What’s the verdict – a, b or c to make the Tag Builder disappear and widen the Pages and Forms textareas?

Bloke · 2010-09-28 22:36:27

hcgtv wrote:

What’s the verdict – a, b or c to make the Tag Builder disappear and widen the Pages and Forms textareas?

c) never got out of the gate. a) is easiest to edit your favourite theme’s css file (or use smd_admin_themes to make a new theme based on your favourite). #tagbuild_links { display:none; } ought to do the trick and then alter the textareas to taste.

Using jQuery is probably not worth the hassle imo.

thebombsite · 2010-09-28 22:39:05

I love the wider textarea on the Style tab. It would be nice to have them on the form and page templates as well. What about the idea of being able to switch the tagbuilder columns off in Preferences and giving those textareas a variable width so that they take up the extra space?

Bloke · 2010-09-28 22:46:03

thebombsite wrote:

What about the idea of being able to switch the tagbuilder columns off in Preferences

Yes, though I’m coming more around to the idea of collapsible panels instead of an actual dedicated pref. It’s more immediate feedback for users and can be stored as a per user pref instantly. Collapse the thing you don’t want and it shrinks away to a tiny arrow or something and the remaining space is used, as you say, by the elastic textarea width. IMO, this should be a design goal of the TXP 5 admin side to allow you to tuck away parts of the interface you don’t use often or if you temporarily need that bit of extra real estate.

Last edited by Bloke (2010-09-28 22:46:24)

hcgtv · 2010-09-28 22:48:25

Bloke wrote:

c) never got out of the gate. a) is easiest to edit your favourite theme’s css file (or use smd_admin_themes to make a new theme based on your favourite). #tagbuild_links { display:none; } ought to do the trick and then alter the textareas to taste.

Alright, thanks.

thebombsite wrote:

What about the idea of being able to switch the tagbuilder columns off in Preferences and giving those textareas a variable width so that they take up the extra space?

That be cool.

thebombsite · 2010-09-28 22:49:45

Yes that sounds good. At least you know that something goes there even if it isn’t being displayed. Although I don’t use them myself (I just like the extra width) I’m thinking this might also be good for those who like to use some kind of “pretty code” plug-in.

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