Code posting < & > changing

hcgtv · 2006-10-18 14:18:01

Just noticed that any code I’ve posted up recently has changed somewhat.

Seems like now any < or > are changed to #60 & #62 when I view the post today.

I’ve been using the new bc.. lately.

els · 2006-10-18 17:05:41

I noticed that too. Doesn’t make it very readable, does it?

This:

becomes:

<looks like this>

Hey, and <pre> </pre> is acting strange as well?

Does this mean we can actually post code without wrapping it in something?

<txp:code />

Yes!!! But what if we want a yellow background and a dashed border and < and >?

els · 2006-10-18 17:14:15

I tried

pre. <this is code> and bc. <this is code> (as says the textile site, and Mary says it’s the same?) but it also renders:

<this is code>

and

<this is code>

Mary · 2006-10-19 17:55:21

http://forum.textpattern.com/viewtopic.php?pid=128689#p128689

els · 2006-10-19 20:51:13

Thanks :)

hcgtv · 2006-10-20 00:14:39

What’s the difference between full textile and the restricted one?

Mary · 2006-10-21 01:28:44

Restricted has stronger security.

Edit: let’s try that again.

Last edited by Mary (2006-10-22 10:07:55)

hcgtv · 2006-10-22 15:19:58

Hi Mary,

I read your post and I have a suggestion.

Since the forum is running a restricted Textile implementation, would it be a good idea to setup a site like the one that Alex has setup but just showing the tags that can be used on the forum. Newbies can then visit this forum textile restricted site to play around and get familiar with what can be posted on this forum, hopefully with some examples, etc.

Cause honestly, I’m still a bit confused. I’ve never really gotten a good handle on this forum and now with all the changes, I’m sort of back to square one.

Mary · 2006-10-23 02:29:36

You can add links, images, make text bold or emphasized, lists… Pretty much anything you could do before. Once the more in-depth documentation for Textile is available, it will be linked to as well.

NyteOwl · 2006-10-23 23:47:40

I read your post and I have a suggestion.

Since the forum is running a restricted Textile implementation, would it be a good idea to setup a site like the one that Alex has setup but just showing the tags that can be used on the forum. Newbies can then visit this forum textile restricted site to play around and get familiar with what can be posted on this forum, hopefully with some examples, etc.

I realize that Textile is a favoured child of the Textpattern developers, and much of the community, but it isn’t always flexible, not is it particularly intuitive – in fact it’s rather arcane unless you use it all the time. I have never understood the policy of restricting the forum to Textile tags.

Cause honestly, I’m still a bit confused. I’ve never really gotten a good handle on this forum and now with all the changes, I’m sort of back to square one.

Frankly, I agree. The forums keep getting less comfortable to use. I just got rid of the lag I was getting loading forum pages by blocking jsquery.js from loading, now this.

In addition to the comments by others in earlier posts, there is now an issue with the creation of links.

With the loss of html, one has to use “linktext” to create links. Using “linktext” produces a less than optimal URL as it makes no provision (at least none I know of) for adding a title attribute to the link. While this doesn’t invalidate the link in terms of markup, it’s poor practice as regards accessibility.

Last edited by NyteOwl (2006-10-23 23:52:37)

Mary · 2006-10-24 00:23:06

It was a decision made years ago, not one made by me.
HTML was never supposed to be available, it’s a very large security hole in a public forum.
Textile links have always accepted title attributes. "link (title)":url.

NyteOwl · 2006-10-24 01:46:55

Mary wrote:

It was a decision made years ago, not one made by me.

HTML was never supposed to be available, it’s a very large security hole in a public forum.

Textile links have always accepted title attributes. "link (title)":url.

I can understand about the html not being available. I cannot understand not offering bbCode as an optional “markup” considering almost every forum on the net uses it (or has it available). It’s practically a standard for marking up forum posts.

Thanks for the info about the way to include a title using Textile. As I said, it’s not an intuitive editing system unless you are using it all time.

hcgtv · 2006-10-24 02:49:55

NyteOwl wrote:

I cannot understand not offering bbCode as an optional “markup” considering almost every forum on the net uses it (or has it available). It’s practically a standard for marking up forum posts.

My problem is one of having 6 tabs open to forums I follow or help moderate and they all use bbcode except this one. I find myself using bbcode here and textile somewhere else, gets quite confusing to say the least. Heck I even saw a post from Sencer the other day using [b] to highlight some text, so I guess I’m not the only one.

I’ve touched on this before but I haven’t pursued a solution since Mary alluded to changing forum software sometime in the future. I don’t see why we couldn’t have a per user profile option that would toggle either bbcode or textile markup for that user. The post table can have an extra field denoting markup language used, so either a bbcode or textile parser is applied for display purposes. The only problem I see is when you quote a textile marked up post and you’re using bbcode or vice versa.

I’ve said it before, I think Textile is wonderful, I love it when I’m creating articles for my sites cause it’s a huge time saver. But I’m in a different mindset at that point, I know I’m in Textpattern land.

colak · 2006-10-24 05:33:43

NyteOwl wrote (whilst others shrared similar views):

I realize that Textile is a favoured child of the Textpattern developers, and much of the community, but it isn’t always flexible, not is it particularly intuitive – in fact it’s rather arcane unless you use it all the time. I have never understood the policy of restricting the forum to Textile tags.

I disagree. The forum is textpattern specific and textile is an inseparable part of textpattern. So having this forum use textile is a good thing…

My problem is that the change was not backward compatible. All previous posts in html (and face it, most of us used it in combination with textile through the years) are now not reading properly which will make it very confusing for the alpha and beta members. Maybe a mysql script should be written and executed to replace all previous html with their textile equivalents. In this way the forum will still be the resource of easily accessible information it was before the change

Last edited by colak (2006-10-24 05:34:30)

Mary · 2006-10-24 05:46:42

Maybe a mysql script should be written and executed to replace all previous html with their textile equivalents.

If you want to write it, by all means, do so.

In any case, Bert, that was and is my intention, to make it an option.

Last edited by Mary (2006-10-24 05:48:47)

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