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#16 2005-11-14 20:32:15

michaelkpate
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Re: RSS version update?

> technosailor wrote:

> My advice to Dean and friends, don’t wait for a standard. Do it yourself. Just do it.

That sums up the entirely reason Atom was created in the first place so much less verbosely than Mark Pilgrim did years ago.

Any resemblance between RSS and “a standard” is purely coincidental.

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#17 2005-11-14 22:33:02

zem
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Re: RSS version update?

I’ve spoken with TS in email, and he’s offered to help with RSS 2.0.

Forget the flames. Put the energy into something constructive instead.


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#18 2005-11-15 03:23:45

NyteOwl
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Re: RSS version update?

Sicne 2.0 is (theoretically anyway) backward compatible with 0.92, I suppose that support for 1.0 is out of the question?


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#19 2005-11-15 05:41:02

zem
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Re: RSS version update?

I suppose that support for 1.0 is out of the question?

You tell me. The problem with the various RSS specs is that they allow lots of room for interpretation, and provide little or no guidance on which way to do things, or how to decide which standard to select. (Take content encoding, for example: even just in RSS 2.0 I’ve seen at least three different approaches to HTML escaping in the main content field alone, not counting the title etc; and there’s absolutely no advice in the spec, nor any ancillary documentation or official guidance I can find, as to what method we should use, what problems we might run into, or even the slightest hint as to how RSS readers might interpret each.) So I’m waiting for someone who knows this stuff – even just a small part of it – to fill in the gaps.


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#20 2005-11-15 06:31:49

ubernostrum
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Re: RSS version update?

RSS 1.0 is both a blessing and a curse; being reformulated in RDF/XML does provide some interesting applications for RDF-aware parsers, but the downside is that nearly everything useful in it is in the RDF or some other namespace.

zem: for what it’s worth, my vote on content encoding is to just dump the article’s XHTML in a DIV with the XHTML namespace. I’ve never seen it fail, and that gets around some of the worst headaches of the content:encoded and CDATA methods — invariably, something gets escaped or unescaped one time too many or one too few.


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#21 2005-11-15 13:33:35

michaelkpate
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Re: RSS version update?

All kidding aside, I support adding RSS 1.0 and RSS 2.0 support to TxP. That will make everyone happy (except, perhaps, the developers). Unfortunately, at this point, each format has a substantial group of supporters who disdain using the other formats for all sorts of reasons.

Fully supporting all three will be the best way to get all of us on to other more important subject.

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#22 2005-11-15 23:49:36

zem
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Re: RSS version update?

my vote on content encoding is to just dump the article’s XHTML in a DIV with the XHTML namespace. I’ve never seen it fail, and that gets around some of the worst headaches of the content:encoded and CDATA methods—invariably, something gets escaped or unescaped one time too many or one too few.

We need examples for the specific cases shown here – start with the RSS 0.92 sample feed, and edit it to transform it into 1.0.


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