So, when I want to create a good web app, where to start?

squaredeye · 2005-11-02 03:37:41

Thanks folks.
That’s really helpful information.

And my wife thought I was getting nerdy when I started learning css and xhtml last year by messing around in blogger templates :)

Honey, here we go.

Are people using most of these languages to create different web applications? Is web GUI written in any one of these languages or many of them? As I get more interested in this stuff, I foresee the first use to be able to come to grips with something like textpattern or other applicable CMS’s as a way of increasing my service abilitiy in some distant would be career?

Much thanks,

Matthew

Joey · 2005-11-02 14:34:37

By the way, when you created a web app, can you export it to any webserver, or has Ruby to be installed in the root directory, or can you install it yourself.

ubernostrum · 2005-11-02 14:42:27

> ma_smith wrote:
> Are people using most of these languages to create different web applications? Is web GUI written
> in any one of these languages or many of them? As I get more interested in this stuff, I foresee the
> first use to be able to come to grips with something like textpattern or other applicable CMS’s as a
> way of increasing my service abilitiy in some distant would be career?

The “GUI” for the web consists of HTML and CSS. A web application is just a program which happens to output HTML in response to its input instead of, say, drawing a window on a screen.

And applications are regularly developed in PHP, ASP, ASP.NET, Perl, Python, Ruby and other languages. Learn one, or several, and get cracking. If you want to plumb the depths of Textpattern, start with PHP.

ubernostrum · 2005-11-02 14:44:39

JoeyNL wrote:
> By the way, when you created a web app, can you export it to any webserver, or has Ruby
> to be installed in the root directory, or can you install it yourself.

For a Ruby-based web application, Ruby must be installed somewhere on the server; generally it will be somewhere like /usr/bin/ruby, /usr/local/bin/ruby or similar. This is something your host must do, instead of you, because often the root configuration of the web server must be changed to accomodate the use of a new scripting language.

davidm · 2005-11-02 19:45:17

Just like JoeyNL, I am no developper but like him I have been thinking about getting some skills in that area to be more efficient. I’ve been wondering wether to learn php or bet on Ruby On Rails… those 37signals apps are fairly impressive, and RoR seems to gain momentum (and also, the guys@textdrive bet on it which carries a lot of weight for me), but yeah setting up something as trivial as Instiki for a Linux newbie like me is still fairly unfathomable…

Yet my bet is on RoR. Even if I can’t grasp the “setup the server” part, syntax seems fairly straightforward, the underlying logic seems to click with me… I installed Ruby but failed to install Ruby Gems and failed to run Instiki sucessfully… but I did not give it a lot of time yet… Finally, I’ll try to go the PHP way first (the present), then learn Ruby (to me, the future).

Joey · 2005-11-02 19:56:59

I installed Ruby+gems+rails today and did this tutorial, creating a cookbook. Quite inpressive what you can do with a few lines of code ;)

I also read some Ruby basic tutorials…but I don’t like learning code…I just want to play with it :P. So I hope the cookbook and that kind of tutorials are learning me :P RoR. No, that’s not going to happen…when I have some more time I’ll learn basic Ruby.

My point of view until now: RoR is great and not that difficult :)

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