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#1 2005-04-28 22:44:05

timjcoulter
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Spam-proof e-mail in articles?

Is there a spam-proof way to use e-mail links in articles? I want to use something like <txp:email>, but in an article, not a page template, and Textile chokes on Textpattern tags. Is there a Textile equivalent?

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#2 2005-04-29 00:20:12

Jeremie
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Re: Spam-proof e-mail in articles?

Yes, link to a HTML form that send an email. That’s the only way.

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#3 2005-04-29 00:52:24

Kibitzer
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Re: Spam-proof e-mail in articles?

I’ve placed a tag like this in an article, with no problems:

(txp:email email=“me@nowhere.com” linktext=“Email me”/)

(round brackets used so it shows up in the forum)

Last edited by Kibitzer (2005-04-29 00:53:37)


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#4 2005-04-29 01:05:59

Mary
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Re: Spam-proof e-mail in articles?

Yeah, the tag Kibitzer mentioned
<txp:email email="menowhere.com” linktext=“Email me” />@
works fine in articles, at least for me.

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#5 2005-04-29 01:33:22

Jeremie
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Re: Spam-proof e-mail in articles?

It’s not spam proof, it’s dumb spambots proof for the time being :)

If any kind of last-end user UA can handle the % encoding, why people might think a spambot can’t do the same ? That’s beyond me.

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#6 2005-04-29 02:09:47

Mary
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Re: Spam-proof e-mail in articles?

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#7 2005-04-29 02:58:21

Jeremie
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Re: Spam-proof e-mail in articles?

I know it, and as I said “it’s dumb spambots proof for the time being”. They are not as dumb as this, and it will not last.

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#8 2005-10-07 16:18:19

heikki74
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Re: Spam-proof e-mail in articles?

It’s not spam-proof. I have an experiment going on and it seems that all (only two so far) emails have gone through.
Simple javascript encoder hasn’t failed yet. I wish there was more traffic, so I could really test this.

Does anyone else have real data related to this?

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#9 2005-10-12 03:27:47

Jeremie
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Re: Spam-proof e-mail in articles?

Only brain suffice. You’re welcome to use false encoding on your websites for your emails, but please don’t ask the dev team to implement something dangerous for our emails.

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#10 2005-10-12 04:57:08

heikki74
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Re: Spam-proof e-mail in articles?

Danger is my middle name..
Seriously – maybe the text “Email link (spam-proof)” should be changed in txp -> presentation -> pages?

Results so far
Plain email link: 3
Txp style encoded link: 2
Simple javascript: 0

Final email link looks like this in all versions:
<code><a href=“mailto:me@here.com”>me@here.com</a></code>

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#11 2005-10-12 06:58:07

Niconemo
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From: Rhône-Alpes, France
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Posts: 557

Re: Spam-proof e-mail in articles?

> heikki74 wrote:

> Final email link looks like this in all versions:
<code><a href=“mailto:me@here.com”>me@here.com</a></code>

What do you mean ? When I use txp in an article tag final email link looks like this :
<code><a href=”&#109;&#97;&#105;&#108;&#116;&#111;&#58;&#109;&#101;&#64;&#104;&#101;&#114;&#101;&#46;&#99;&#111;&#109;”>Email me</a></code>
I know it is not the best protection but it does what it is supposed to do, no ?


Nico

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#12 2005-10-12 08:53:37

heikki74
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Re: Spam-proof e-mail in articles?

Sorry.. it wasn’t very clear sentence. This is what I ment to say
What I did use for test was

Plain email link:
<code><a href=“mailto:me@here.com”>me@here.com</a></code>

Txp style encoded link (almost, except the link text is also encoded email address):
<code><a href=”&#109;&#97;&#105;&#108;&#116;&#111;&#58;&#109;&#101;&#64;&#104;&#101;&#114;&#101;&#46;&#99;&#111;&#109;”>&#109;&#101;&#64;&#104;&#101;&#114;&#101;&#46;&#99;&#111;&#109;</a></code>

Simple javascript:
<code><script language=“javascript”>
<!—
ML=“h<m\”@acfo =le.t>i:/r”;
MI=“1590C<7:325@;>8A2<40<C<=6823?2<40<C<=6821B5?”;
OT=”“;
for(j=0;j<MI.length;j++){
OT+=ML.charAt(MI.charCodeAt(j)-48);
}document.write(OT);
// —></script>

Last edited by heikki74 (2005-10-12 08:56:01)

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#13 2005-10-12 18:59:54

Jeremie
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Re: Spam-proof e-mail in articles?

Niconemo wrote:
I know it is not the best protection but it does what it is supposed to do, no ?

No.

It is supposed to protect from spam bot. It doesn’t.

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#14 2005-10-12 19:18:14

Niconemo
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Re: Spam-proof e-mail in articles?

Yes I understand that. You’re right, no doubt. ;)
(it would be better if there was a random coding as here
and the only 100% safe way is a mail form)

It was just about heikki74’s message I hadn’t understood…

This is also intersting (sorry it’s in French) : you can see exactly the e-mail adresses a bot can find in one page. Txp e-mail coding is considered as “trivial” (and easily decoded ofc course).

So now… Who will make a plugin out of that ? ;-)

Last edited by Niconemo (2005-10-12 19:26:44)


Nico

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#15 2005-11-21 06:08:16

heikki74
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Re: Spam-proof e-mail in articles?

Ok.. I’m ending my experiment now. Too much spam is getting through when spam-assasin is turned off.
I also found a site about spam harvesters: Project Honey Pot.

My results: (duplicates are included)
Plain email link: 18
Txp style encoded link: 6
Simple javascript: 0

See earlier messages for explanation.

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