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Re: Admin plugin request: nav dropdown to header
bizartist – that could be it. maybe i need a bizarro icon instead. or just end everything with “bizarro, i love you!”
Listen to Kenneth
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Or you could get a little photoshop action going and make Cutman into a pimp.
Tagline: “don’t make me cut you, foo’”
After enduring years of Art School, mild mannered Owen Waring noticed some unusual changes… the constant bombardment of criticism, it seems, had altered his DNA. Half pixel pusher, half programmer, he had become…. THE BIZARTIST
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I guess I’d prefer if work that I’ve done not cause big arguments and name calling.
Course not. Do please keep on doing the things you’re doing: glad to have been introduced to your work.
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Meh.
Great minds, etc. etc. All ideas will eventually be subsumed into TextMind. TextMind knows what you’re thinking right now. TextMind will never again look at brussels sprouts the same way. You sicko.
You cooin’ with my bird?
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#35 2005-08-12 05:36:23
- zem
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Re: Admin plugin request: nav dropdown to header
Second, it’s been around for 9 months now. Busy or not, I’d think someone on the development team would notice a popular plugin after that amount of time. Hell, even Zem has a link on his site to Rob’s site. Obviously it’s not some hidden little plugin that no one cared about or used.
I don’t want to reignite an argument, but I think there’s a constructive point to make here.
It ought to be pretty obvious now that the developers are busy people. Most of the time we spend on Textpattern goes tracking down and fixing bugs, and preventing new ones from occurring.
I regularly see comments on the forums about how someone is waiting for a particular problem to be fixed, or a feature to work on a particular platform, or a limitation to be removed – and the issue is one none of us on the dev team have ever heard of.
It’s not a conspiracy or symptom of neglect. There are far more things discussed on the forums than we could ever follow; and it’d be a huge waste of time (and drain on progress) for us to try.
The problems that get fixed are the ones that are brought to our attention clearly, consisely and with all the necessary information. And the features that get added are the ones that are submitted to the dev team as clean, simple, tested, fresh patches.
So please, don’t assume that the developers Know Everything And Are Secretly Keeping It From You. We don’t go hunting for plugins to turn into features because most of the time there’s no good reason to put them in the core. I’d never seen Rob’s plugin either (I’ve hardly touched my own recently); I had a vague idea someone had done something like that, but no idea what state the code was and no reason to think it was worth investigating. There were no posts in the Feature Requests forum suggesting that it be added to the core, and nobody submitted a patch or even a suggestion to the dev team.
If there’s a feature missing or a problem to be solved, please don’t sit on your hands waiting for the dev team to get around to it, because chances are we’re busy working on something else. There are lots of constructive things you can do to help, even if you’re not a PHP expert. Finding important information that’s buried somewhere on page <del>eight</del> two of a forum topic and making sure there’s a corresponding bug report or feature request, for example.
Alex
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Re: Admin plugin request: nav dropdown to header
On the subject of moving things, maybe moving back to the subject of the ergonomics of the admin area might help a little: now that the nav dropdown has been moved to the header as of revision 754, can we also move the “logged in as user” and logout link to the top of the page, as nice as it is by the txp logo? As categories, links and article lists get longer, it becomes a long trip to the bottom of the page to find the logout. Not a big deal (just thought the thread could use a push in a different direction).
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I second bahuhouse’s request. I think the logout link should be placed around the navigation area. I also would like to make two more requests.
A lot of my NON-GEEKY-STAFF use the internet cafe to post to the website. They login with the “Remember me” and forget to logoff. Now this makes it quite unsafe. I have told them a thousand times to logoff after posting. But they just dont do it. I would rather have the “Remember me” feature turned off by default.
I would also like to bring <a href=“http://forum.textpattern.com/viewtopic.php?id=10225”>*this*</a> to your attention.
Sorry for requesting it here. But, since Mr.Dean is here it makes more sense for me to flash it here.
Regards,
Vasanth
“Take a point, stretch it into a line, curl it into a circle, twist it into a sphere, and punch through the sphere.”
— Albert Einstein
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Vasanth, please reread zem’s suggestions for the best way to submit requests. The tail end of this thread ain’t it.
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#39 2005-08-12 08:16:07
- zem
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- From: Melbourne, Australia
- Registered: 2004-04-08
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Re: Admin plugin request: nav dropdown to header
there have been a lot of plugins that have been made into core features without acknowledging the plugin author.
Alicson,
This one has us all stumped. Which plugins are those?
Alex
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there are a lot of accusations here without a reason.
keneth, Alicson,
it is always easy to find similarities between 2 works.
My main question is where is Rob in this discussion?
If there is no complain from him, there is no issue. If there is a complain, then there has to be documentation in the code (not just in the look) to support that complain and the issue will be between dean and rob with the rest of us out of it.
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colak – getting in a little late aren’t you? btw, if you want Rob’s reaction to all of this, follow that link i posted a few replies back.
zem – i understand that you guys are busy, i would hope you are busy. :) but i don’t agree with you that it would be a “waste of time” to pay attention to your forums. the people here are your customers, without them you have no work (not as far as text* is concerned). if you don’t listen to your customers main way of imparting information/concerns to you, then you’re saying you don’t care about them. and i can’t really think of a faster way to run them off.
Listen to Kenneth
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Personally I would just like to get on with the job and stop all this quibbling. Seems to be a bit too much of it just lately and I don’t think it does much in the way of motivating the devs. In any case, as far as this particular inclusion is concerned, I think Rob has made his position clear.
Stuart
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El closerino.
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> don’t agree with you that it would be a “waste of time” to pay attention to your forums
Please stop putting words into people’s mouth. Nobody said that. A stable version is about to be released: I wonder what is more important, trying to read through all bug reports and troubles that people are having and working on making it stable or checking out plugins? Exacktly, the answer should be obvious.
edit: whoops, didn’t see this was closed. Sorry. ;)
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