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Re: upm_img_popper
By “how it’s viewed” i take you mean visually rather than any management side right? Since there’s no built in feature for the category images ot be browsed based on the category, the only other thing that may make the process of filtering through 100s of images is to perhaps view them a particular order such as by date, ascending, descending and so on – does the image area allow you to click through to pages directly or do you have to ue the next/prev navigation? Maybe there’s a need to view the images as a directory-style listing? or as smaller thumbnails to view more images within that window at once? I think clutching at straws with regards to the latter items but perhaps someone else has an idea.
That’s the only other thing I can think of, and it would probably be hard work to implement a category/section method of viewing and image – sort of like in that other thread where I asked where it could be done via a drop down menu in the main page, andI think Soulship stated it woudl beed to be an admin side plugin.
I’d just buildon this little by little. As it stands it’s the best way to add images (for me anyway), and in the future perhaps things like the above could be added. Hopefully the tabbed image manager will also improve. Keep it simple?
Last edited by sekhu (2005-05-25 00:34:26)
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Category navigation: yes, see above – thats what I meant. The txp handling doesn’t really achieve very much.
You may be right in using a pop up, to allow for future expansion that a dropdown would struggle with. At the moment though, for myself, my workflow concerns very individual/singular photo posts, so I dont need a huge navigation display. It could actually take more time to navigate the entire thumb page, which itself could get very big, compared to a drop down list like bas_img. Could it be an option in the plug in, to choose either dropdown or pop up? (Just ignore that suggestion, if its a very big or complicated issue!).
On the matter of display though, is that simpler to implement? If so, multiple columns would be much better than just one, where you have to do a lot of scrolling. Column displays (3 columns?) would also improve the default txp code, IMO, so maybe its something Dean might consider for txp. Because sooner or later, people will want to use txp for image handling and image/photo based sites.
Its great to see this being developed……:-)
Last edited by jameslomax (2005-05-25 12:01:49)
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Re: upm_img_popper
Suggestion: thumbs-only select/panel.
Mary has done some great work here to make a plugin that fills an obvious functional gap in TXP. I and others have already found it useful and all want to see it stretch in different directions. Mary’s doing a good job of walking that line between functionality/clutter. Having said that…
I think there is a place for another plugin that reveals a select or a div containing thumbnails only, perhaps sorted by category perhaps a 5 × 5 grid overflow set to hidden. Click on a thumbnail and it places the id in the article image field or a tag with ID in the body. This would provide a much more immediate, visual approach for content contributors.
I’d write it myself, but I don’t have the PHP skeeeals. (kinda like saying I’d be Michael Jordan, but I can’t play basketball :P ).
Thoughts?
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Re: upm_img_popper
> mrdale wrote:
> Suggestion: thumbs-only select/panel.
>Mary has done some great work here to make a plugin that fills an obvious functional gap in TXP. I and others have already found it useful and all want to see it stretch in different directions. Mary’s doing a good job of walking that line between functionality/clutter. Having said that…
>I think there is a place for another plugin that reveals a select or a div containing thumbnails only, perhaps sorted by category perhaps a 5 × 5 grid overflow set to hidden. Click on a thumbnail and it places the id in the article image field or a tag with ID in the body. This would provide a much more immediate, visual approach for content contributors.
>I’d write it myself, but I don’t have the PHP skeeeals. (kinda like saying I’d be Michael Jordan, but I can’t play basketball :P ).
>Thoughts?
Hmm it’s an interesting question – the plugin has a lot of potential, but it’s partly based on the existing management of the images. As has been mentioned, I think unless the core already has a way to distinguish images by category, and with the plugin being a mini-me version of the existing manager, it will be difficult to implement. That’s my pet peeve not of the plugin, but the purpose of image cats – or perhaps it’s there as a place holder for a future implementation.
Multiple thumbnails is a possibility, but at the same time, that means a larger window, and if you go 5 × 5 for example, then that would require a reasonable sized plugin -without overflow hidden and if the image thumbnail is bigger than the window, wouldn’t you want the ability to scroll down?
>Click on a thumbnail and it places the id
I think it already does this, does it not? If I click on the thumbnail, for me at least, it inserts the id of that image. Takinga way certain elements (file name) would be fine I think, but again some people may want it. My thought would be:
image cat
image
link1 link2 link3
So you would have the three options side by side at the bottom of the thumbnail. It may allow more images on screen – or probably not when I think about it. You would then need to set the number of images viewable for the popup, and then that would add its own pagination? Perhaps it’s all getting a little too complicated. If the image manager improves, then it makes the changes to the plugin easier I assume
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Yes it would. I think I saw Dean mention somewhere that image handling will improve for future releases, and I hope the idea isn’t buried under a lot of more frontline development needs. My guess is – my hope is – he cruises the forums keeping watch on developments like this one, and considering if they might have value for the txp core.
Incidentally Worpress is more advanced with this, in the sense that they have some great and widely used plugins. One of the better ones is called Exhibit, which does work quite nicely.
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OK, a picture tells 1K words, so here’s a 19.3K gif ;P
Screen acreage = minimal
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Last edited by mrdale (2005-05-25 16:32:03)
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Re: upm_img_popper
> jameslomax wrote:
> Yes it would. I think I saw Dean mention somewhere that image handling will improve for future releases, and I hope the idea isn’t buried under a lot of more frontline development needs. My guess is – my hope is – he cruises the forums keeping watch on developments like this one, and considering if they might have value for the txp core.
Incidentally Worpress is more advanced with this, in the sense that they have some great and widely used plugins. One of the better ones is called Exhibit, which does work quite nicely.
Exhibit is more a gallery type plugin – I was hoping someone could convert IImage Browser – which basically does all of this, but it’s a WP plugin only and neither the original author nor the guy who modified use TXP or have the time do convert it. I like the way img_popper is going, but if it’s a gallery style plugin it should seperate thing because that would require a lot more feature wise.
To be honest, WP’s own image “manager” is pretty inferior as the plugins tend to the job far, far better than default. Create a thumbnail, and you get no output, link or knowledge of where it is except that it says thumbnail was created. It’s very shoddy, by that token the TXP image manager is well ahead
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Re: upm_img_popper
I don’t consider my suggestion to be a gallery plugin. Just an efficient visual way to get images into articles, which can take a lot of time if you are writing many articles at a time.
What I’m really looking forward to is a multiple image upload function at some point.
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BTW: Sorry to get grandiose and off topic…
…which, as I recall is upm_img_popper.
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> mrdale wrote:
> OK, a picture tells 1K words, so here’s a 19.3K gif ;P
I like your words ;)
The only problem still to be solved in this idea: the traffic if you always show all uploaded images.
A few weeks ago I posted a picture on a German textpattern site how the article images could be shown in the write tab:
(sorry, it’s in German – the first arrow points to the article image [=Artikelbild] ).
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Re: upm_img_popper
> mrdale wrote:
> I don’t consider my suggestion to be a gallery plugin. Just an efficient visual way to get images into articles, which can take a lot of time if you are writing many articles at a time.
>What I’m really looking forward to is a multiple image upload function at some point.
I’d like to see that taken further and support for FTP uploading of images, user could then go to the image manager and checkbox which iamges they want in which cat. Batch uploads would be a start though.
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Alles gute! Skubidu:
Re: too many images» The other thought I had was just to add a image category filter field above the list. You could set it to show nothing by default, with the select saying “select image category”.
Re: ftp upload, tag and cat» Rock me amedaeus! that sounds like a great idea.
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Re: upm_img_popper
> mrdale wrote:
> “select image category”.
Oh, that’s a nice idea :)
> Re: ftp upload, tag and cat» Rock me amedaeus! that sounds like a great idea.
Hey programers out there: Isn’t there anybody who knows how to do that and who likes to make a patch so these features could be added directly to textpattern?!
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Re: upm_img_popper
Just installed this plugin. Works like a charm. Looking forward to v.0.3 when it comes out.
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