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#16 2025-06-13 18:44:29

Vienuolis
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Re: WordPress theme file editing

Yes, the classification on Textpattern is done correctly and cleanly. There is no need to expand the number of categories really, it would become a mess and pollution. Unlimited meta keywords (index subjects, tag labels) are used to mark features instead — which are essentially different from categories. A category is a field of knowledge, the subject of a message, just as a UDK taxonomy class is. Therefore, there should be only one category. Or two, but the second one is just a further specification, narrower than the general first one. Whereas many keywords (marks) can be assigned to a single thing — as many as there are features of that thing that need to be tagged.

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#17 2025-06-13 22:42:55

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Re: WordPress theme file editing

Unless I have misunderstood the issues in Textpattern, I am not sure that the two –– category and meta keyword –– have the same usage or application

In ExpressionEngine this feature of multi categories is very useful.

For Keywords.


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#18 2025-06-13 22:47:44

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Re: WordPress theme file editing

Forget meta keywords. I only mentioned them because one idea was to revamp them into semi-structured, synonymable, filterable tags. In that guise, they become a bit like categories. A bit… insofar as you can assign as many as you like to an article and filter by one or more to find content.


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#19 2025-06-14 18:32:59

Vienuolis
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Re: WordPress theme file editing

So you are going to abolish the categories, rename meta keywords as categories and make them fully fledged, are not you? I do not disagree, categories are rarely necessary, your smd_tags are much handier. Just remember that general search is more accurate and effective with unlimited custom keyword queries, whereas meta tags serve a different purpose.

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#20 2025-06-14 18:44:08

Bloke
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Re: WordPress theme file editing

Vienuolis wrote #339872:

meta tags serve a different purpose.

Hence I said forget about meta keywords. They’re defunct and we already have some of the infrastructure to display lists of keywords (aka “tags”) so the rough plan was to repurpose that field. To avoid confusion between Txp: tags and data tags that act as filters, I’m going to use the term keytags.

This is already straying waaaay off topic…

But I’d move keywords out of the Meta block into its own keytags group and beef it up. Allow keytag management and synonyming, then add keytag search/filter capability to the article txp: tags. And introduce some Txp: tags to generate lists of keytags and conditionally act on values passed via the URL – a bit like categories (and smd_tags) do.

I wasn’t intending to get rid of categories. It affects too many tags, url schemes, plugins and code. If people want simple categorisation, use them. If they want something more advanced, use keytags. Or a mixture.


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