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#1 2016-01-06 11:05:57

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#2 2016-01-06 12:08:16

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Re: IE 8,9 and 10 end of life'd soon

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#3 2016-01-06 12:09:17

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Re: IE 8,9 and 10 end of life'd soon

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#4 2021-03-10 22:03:05

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Re: IE 8,9 and 10 end of life'd soon

A new proposal on WordPress.org explores the ramifications of dropping support for Internet Explorer 11 (IE11). Héctor Prieto summarized the current state of IE usage among WordPress users, citing three metrics that demonstrate declining usage that is now cumulatively below ~1% – WordPress Considers Dropping Support for IE 11 After Usage Falls Below 1%

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#5 2021-03-11 09:16:38

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Re: IE 8,9 and 10 end of life'd soon

In reply to michaelkpate #329198:

I have to say that I am well behind the evolution of CSS. The article prompted me to check CSS Variables, CSS grid, and Modern JS which I feel that will need to implement at some point.

Thanks for sharing.


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#6 2021-03-11 09:50:33

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Re: IE 8,9 and 10 end of life'd soon

FYI Textpattern 4.9-dev branch has already dropped IE completely – for most of the reasons outlined in that article.

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#7 2021-03-11 10:10:58

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Re: IE 8,9 and 10 end of life'd soon

Another FYI – we’re nearly at the point that our Textpattern network sites (forum, .com, docs, and so on) can drop the web server encryption ciphers for Internet Explorer support, too. Sometime in the next 12 to 18 months I plan to upgrade us from Mozilla TLS v4.0 (Modern) spec to v5.something (Modern).

More info: wiki.mozilla.org/Security/Server_Side_TLS

Edit: the other holdback is old versions of Safari. Internet Explorer and ye olde Safari(e) use the TLS_ECDHE_RSA_WITH_AES_256_CBC_SHA384 cipher to communicate with our servers, as it’s the least insecure (?!) cipher for compatibility.

This is what we’re running on our latest server build (green = OK, orange = weak):

Every client that connects to our servers needs to use TLS 1.2 or TLS 1.3, along with a cipher. Our servers are set to offer a known-safe set of ciphers, with the weak ciphers used for older clients who need access from older systems. The weak ciphers are used for Internet Explorer and Safari, plus some exotic browsers that insist on using weak crypto.

IE on Win 7 and Win Phone:

…and Safari on old macOS / iOS:

Slowly and surely we’re phasing out support, without any adverse effects.

PSA: for security’s sake, please help this effort by using a sensible browser as your daily driver – your webmaster / webmistress and ops teams will appreciate it!

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#8 2021-03-11 10:12:00

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Re: IE 8,9 and 10 end of life'd soon

gaekwad wrote #297274:

Yikes. How awkward was I in 2016? (and every year since)

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#9 2021-03-12 07:01:22

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Re: IE 8,9 and 10 end of life'd soon

In reply to michaelkpate #329198:

Yeah, OK. Depending on whom you ask, the share for IE (11 ? only) is about 3.38% in Japan (Statcounter). Caniuse (source ?) has it at ~ 1.5% for the same country. Nobody know for sure who those users are or where it comes from.

Note also that until recently IE still had better support for some accessibility features than Edge, old and the newish traitor-edition (High Contrast themes, but also other AT tools).


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