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Re: PHP 8, MAMP, alternatives for local development
PS – one thing i might have added; I had installed Sandspace theme in the Admin themes folder; it, of course, appeared for selection in the last set up panel, and I, of course…selected it. when accessing the login panel, the Hive theme was in use. I don’t remember that happened under PHP 7.4 and 7.3.
That is another indication that stuff might not have been registered in the mamp DB (MySQL 5.7.x).
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That sounds like a frustrating experience. Very odd that the end of the installation process kicked you back to the start of setup. I’ve not experienced that here, but I haven’t “upgraded” MAMP yet so I’m still on some minimum version of PHP 5 for testing purposes.
I agree I don’t like the way MAMP keeps trying to give you “free” MAMP-Pro trials and sneaking you into the premium product. But it does rather sound like MAMP and its supporting apps aren’t as battle ready for PHP 8 as they think.
EDIT: Does MAMP misbehave in the same way if you switch back to PHP 7.4?
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Bloke wrote #327573:
But it does rather sound like MAMP and its supporting apps aren’t as battle ready for PHP 8 as they think.
Yes, I had just started drafting an additional post noting that.
I think Mamp is a fine product, kudos for 1/ fairly good, readable documentation (comprehensive, I think), and 2/ correct use of the .pkg installer.
All testing was done on macOS 11.1 on the battle tested MBA.
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phiw13 wrote #327569:
First step I downloaded the mamp/mamp-pro installer, which does everything possible to kick me into the mamp-pro application …
Bloke wrote #327573:
I agree I don’t like the way MAMP keeps trying to give you “free” MAMP-Pro trials and sneaking you into the premium product. But it does rather sound like MAMP and its supporting apps aren’t as battle ready for PHP 8 as they think.
FWIW: Even though I’m attempting to move away from it (it’s got slow but then again my Mac is nearly 10 years old), MAMP Pro does make handling things a lot easier on a per-site basis than the bare MAMP. You can set up multiple hosts with different PHP versions, apache or nginx, with or without local certificates all with a few clicks. Great if you’re upgrading a site to get over the php 5.6->7 hump. You can put the sites where you want on your Mac and if you use the same setup often, you can also start from a standard folder setup. Mailhog to catch outgoing local web server email is also useful, as is the ability to do mobile testing on a local network. You can do those things manually, of course, or add another hosts file manager on top of MAMP but the Pro version makes that a whole lot easier in an integrated system. I’m not defending their method of pushing their product, but I don’t regret having paid for it in the past.
As mentioned earlier, I’m trying Laravel Valet for now and it’s working nicely so far, but it’s nginx only so no Apache modules and no htaccess (clean urls work fine, though). It sits on top of homebrew and composer so requires some command-line use to get set up or to switch PHP versions but thereafter one only really needs Sequel Ace to manage mysql. If I find I can’t do without htaccess or absolutely need per-site php switching, then I may go back to MAMP.
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i have Mamp Pro 5.7 and it was worth the price when i had to manage a number of sites. Now i hardly ever use it as i do all my testing on a live server. i just use a dormant domain. Then deploy to the live one.
(ps i am constantly implored to update to version 6.0, which i ignore)
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Jacob, I opened a discussion on possible options to install local dev. environment here.
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jakob wrote #327586:
(it’s got slow but then again my Mac is nearly 10 years old)
Aside: I love how many folks around here have vintage Macs that just keep on going. Brilliant.
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gaekwad wrote #327601:
I love how many folks around here have vintage Macs that just keep on going.
Me too!
Mid-2012 MBP upon which I type this, “dead” according to the genius bar, lovingly stripped back to the motherboard and resurrected by me over many hours using a toothbrush and water to remove the spilled gin and tonic.
Sure, it’s had a few pimps – 16GB RAM, SSD+HDD internal caddy in place of the Superdrive, and I’m on my second (soon third, I expect) keyboard. Plus, Pete’s helped me out with immense knowledge regarding fixing things like the SATA cable when the machine went wonky recently. But damn, the i5 Mac still outperforms my desktop Windows 10 PC with its quad core Intel CPU and crunjo Nvidia GT Gfx card.
That’s why the newer breed of ‘throwaway’ Macs with unreplaceable/unupgradeable parts make no sense to me as a hacker and fixer-upper. I don’t throw nuthin’ away unless it’s way beyond repair (and even then I’ll harvest it for bits, just in case… and that’s saved my bacon more than once).
Anyway, sorry, carry on.
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gaekwad wrote #327601:
Aside: I love how many folks around here have vintage Macs that just keep on going. Brilliant.
Agree but I am careful with it and it is still in pretty good shape. My work colleagues have gone through 2-3 windows laptops in the same period and mine is still quieter. But its days are numbered: while there’s no hurry to update to a newer OS, it can’t go beyond Catalina (or not without tricks).
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Bloke wrote #327607:
[…] many hours using a toothbrush and water […]
For all that is holy, I hope you mean isopropyl alcohol…
I’m on my second (soon third, I expect) keyboard.
This reminds me of the time I changed a MacBook Pro keyboard on a client laptop. So many tiny screws, grain of rice for scale:
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Sorry guys, 2019 iMac 5K with 40GB RAM here. But I need that sort of power just to run Adobe Illustrator satisfactorily.
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gaekwad wrote #327610:
For all that is holy, I hope you mean isopropyl alcohol…
Yeah, IPA for the mobo, soapy water for the individual keys I popped off and scrubbed clean. G&T is sticky.
So many tiny screws
Ain’t that the truth! And not just one type. No, two or three different screwdriver bits required. Triangle head, star head, cross head, …
Changing/cleaning the keyboard is my least favourite maintenance job. Especially since any such intricate work is a massive cat attractant and then my carefully-laid-out array of screws so I know where they all came from is for nothing. Note to self: invest in a magnetic work board so the screws stay put in the orientation I set them out.
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Bloke wrote #327613:
Note to self: invest in a magnetic work board so the screws stay put in the orientation I set them out.
Invest in and curate a magnetic board, otherwise you get this (mine, just now):
Ahem. I mean, I know what they all do…it’s just…yeah, it’s chaos.
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Not seen one of those magnetic boards before. I used the lid of the small ifixit toolkit. I forgot that I also replaced the keyboard and the battery in the MBP and also had to deal with the 100 tiny screws. Taking out the existing keyboard meant disassembling the innards, peeling off the backlit foil and then literally ripping the faulty keyboard free of the aluminium body. Unfortunately a lot of the aluminium pegs didn’t pop out with it, so need removing individually with a flathead screwdriver placed on one side and a tap with a hammer. Felt very archaic taking a hammer to a piece of electronics … but it worked :-)
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I’ve had that board for years, it’s showing its age now. There are many generic ones out there, back when I purchased it they were quite new and priced accordingly.
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