Just in: Articles 11 and 13

colak · 2019-03-26 12:58:04

Net censorship is now eu law. Articles 11 and 13 have been ratified.

Bloke · 2019-03-26 13:20:10

Someone ought to tell Whatsapp to remove their animated GIF meme tool.

Destry · 2019-03-26 13:38:21

colak wrote #317310:

Net censorship is now eu law. Articles 11 and 13 have been ratified.

Maybe not quite yet. Unlike GDPR, this has some extra steps that could take at least to 2021.

And by then the internet could blow up, so don’t sweat it. ;)

michaelkpate · 2019-03-26 17:02:15

It was nice knowing all of you back when you were still allowed to be on the Internet.

bici · 2019-03-26 19:43:39

maybe we will all head over to the deep dark web… wherever that might be.

michaelkpate · 2019-03-26 23:52:29

A breakdown of the vote by Member Nation

via this tweet

Destry · 2019-03-27 07:17:22

It’s useful to compare that chart with the one breaking it down by political party. Julia Reda has one, but I can’t find it except here

All Greens and Pirate parties voted it down, for the most part, regardless of country. They would be in that orange part of the bar, I guess.

So, you know, vote sunflowers and Jolly Rogers. ?

michaelkpate · 2019-03-27 20:17:02

The Plot thickens.

A few hours later, the EU put out the official voting record which includes an astounding 13 MEPs who said they voted incorrectly. Ten of them said they meant to vote for amendments. Two of them said they wanted to vote against it. And one did not want to vote. As you can see in the screenshot below, everyone next to the “+” would have voted for the amendments if they had actually realized what they were voting on. All told, that would have shifted the vote and allowed for a vote on amendments. By a slim majority, the law would have been opened up to deleting Articles 11 and 13. In other words, whoever changed the order of the vote pulled a fast one and got the EU Copyright Directive approved… despite the EU Parliament not clearly agreeing on that. – Enough MEPs Say They Mistakenly Voted For Articles 11 & 13 That The Vote Should Have Flipped; EU Parliament Says Too Bad

jakob · 2019-03-27 22:13:00

which includes an astounding 13 MEPs who said they voted incorrectly

If that’s true, that’s amazing. Whether or not someone’s pulled a fast one with rephrasing or reordering items, it’s still their job to actually look at what they’re voting for!

phiw13 · 2019-03-27 23:33:46

jakob wrote #317352:

If that’s true, that’s amazing. Whether or not someone’s pulled a fast one with rephrasing or reordering items, it’s still their job to actually look at what they’re voting for!

Colour me extremely sceptical about that one. In a high stakes game like this, most MEP would pay attention to what they do. Unless they are stoned or drunken or something. (and all sources for that claim of mistaken vote are tainted, imho)

PS – I for one am fairly happy that this legislation finally passed. There, I said it.

Destry · 2019-03-28 07:14:28

michaelkpate wrote #317330:

A breakdown of the vote by Member Nation

There must be more to the weightings of a given country, and France has way too much weight, evidently, because when I look at that chart, the ‘yes’ only has it down to Hungary, and you can remove Czech Republic and Slovenia before that, which makes it noticeably fewer countries than what voted ‘no’. Presumably the blue abstainers mean zilch.

phiw13 wrote #317354:

I for one am fairly happy that this legislation finally passed. There, I said it.

I have to admit, I’ve always wondered what the big deal is, too, for anyone outside of mainstream media. I have no love for them, or search engines, or socmed memes for that matter. I can function just fine with linked titles; I don’t need all the extra metadata.

I figured I just didn’t understand the bills, or what it could lead to in the future, and that’s probably still true. (Please, no links, I’ve read enough.)

It doesn’t look like it matters anyway. With all the marshaling that has been going on to petition against it, etc, having no influence… The popular wigs don’t give a shiza. And the rebels will just come up with something in spite of it all.

colak · 2019-04-09 10:52:49

this new copyright law is making every online platform older that three years, directly liable for every copyright infringement that their users commit.

youtu.be/u2yu_yLHWVg

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