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#16 2018-06-05 21:33:40

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Re: Microsoft has been talking to GitHub about possible acquisition

philwareham wrote #312302:

It’ll be interesting to see if anything changes for Atom IDE development if the acquisition goes ahead, since it competes for marketshare somewhat with VS.

(this is where I make a snarky, somewhat tired comment about Electron app (e.g. Atom) memory usage)

I was very into Coda for years, and then Atom came along and changed things. And then I tried Visual Studio and was impressed. Atom is my daily driver, but I keep creeping back toward VS…Coda, not so much.

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#17 2018-06-05 22:53:16

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Re: Microsoft has been talking to GitHub about possible acquisition

gaekwad wrote #312359:

I was very into Coda for years, and then Atom came along and changed things. And then I tried Visual Studio and was impressed. Atom is my daily driver, but I keep creeping back toward VS…Coda, not so much.

What is nice about Atom? I have tried it a couple of times of the years and dropped it very quickly to go back to BBEdit (my choice for the past 15years or so).


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#18 2018-06-05 22:57:07

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Re: Microsoft has been talking to GitHub about possible acquisition

phiw13 wrote #312363:

BBEdit (my choice for the past 15years or so).

It (Still) Doesn’t Suck ®


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#19 2018-06-06 03:40:10

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Re: Microsoft has been talking to GitHub about possible acquisition

bici wrote #312365:

It (Still) Doesn’t Suck ®

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#20 2018-06-06 14:36:06

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Re: Microsoft has been talking to GitHub about possible acquisition

I’m sticking with Coda for now, as it’s native and fairly fast and I like Panic as a company. But I have Atom and Visual Studio Code on my Mac too, along with Textwrangler (BBEdit’s little, discontinued, brother).

I think I probably have Adobe’s various web tools as part of Creative Cloud (but obviously I don’t use those). Didn’t know that Adobe just acquired Magento, thought it was an eBay product?

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#21 2018-06-06 14:44:48

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Re: Microsoft has been talking to GitHub about possible acquisition

phiw13 wrote #312363:

What is nice about Atom? I have tried it a couple of times of the years and dropped it very quickly to go back to BBEdit (my choice for the past 15years or so).

I’ve never (to my best recollection) used BBEdit. When I switched to macOS from Windows XP, I used the free flavour of SubEthaEdit for years, and then found Coda, and then Coda 2, and then Atom.

A lot of what I do code-wise is repository-housed, so I use Atom and its git-iness to see what’s changed in files. I have a well-spec’d Mac, and I don’t notice any obvious overhead from Atom, despite it being built on Electron (which is something of a meme for excess resource usage). Oh, and I use Tower for git stuff, because I’m not yet fully-versed in command line git-ery.

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#22 2018-06-06 14:47:09

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Re: Microsoft has been talking to GitHub about possible acquisition

philwareham wrote #312398:

I like Panic as a company.

Same here. I don’t know how they make any money, though.

(Which is not to say they should go down the subscription route, but I do wonder how they’re still around.)

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#23 2018-06-06 15:05:46

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Re: Microsoft has been talking to GitHub about possible acquisition

gaekwad wrote #312400:

Same here. I don’t know how they make any money, though.

Transmit sales primarily, I’d imagine. Plus they published the wide-acclaimed game Firewatch (before the makers Campo Santo were acquired by Valve). Coda Next is being developed at the moment and I’m quietly hopeful it’ll be nice.

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#24 2018-06-06 16:19:21

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Re: Microsoft has been talking to GitHub about possible acquisition

philwareham wrote #312401:

Transmit sales primarily, I’d imagine.

Yeah, that’s fair – the macOS (S)FTP application range isn’t exactly brimming with Transmit competition.

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#25 2018-06-06 22:36:02

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Re: Microsoft has been talking to GitHub about possible acquisition

gaekwad wrote #312400:

Same here. I don’t know how they make any money, though.

(Which is not to say they should go down the subscription route, but I do wonder how they’re still around.)

Transmit comes back to the Mac App store (via M. Tsai)

But yeah, Transmit is their main income (Coda for iOS does pretty well, I’m told).

philwareham wrote #312398:

(…) Textwrangler (BBEdit’s little, discontinued, brother).

You know that BBEdit is free and does all what Textwrangler did? But obviously, to have all the bells and toys you need to buy it


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#26 2018-06-07 00:22:05

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Re: Microsoft has been talking to GitHub about possible acquisition

Just out of curiosity, does anyone use Sublime Text? That is usually the one I see compared to Atom and VS Code.

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#27 2018-06-07 03:17:46

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Re: Microsoft has been talking to GitHub about possible acquisition

michaelkpate wrote #312426:

Just out of curiosity, does anyone use Sublime Text?

I have tried it… at least it is much faster that Atom (which can be really sluggish). The UI is less antagonistic to the macOS UI. I didn’t care much about their auto-complete system. On the flip side, general macOS integration is not great (cough, cough, but still better than Atom though): text editing / selection / etc, but also through Finder & Automator. Did I mention Applescript? Uh nope non-existent.


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#28 2018-06-07 08:18:31

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Re: Microsoft has been talking to GitHub about possible acquisition

I use Sublime Text. Primarily because I like the plugins such as git gutter, docblockr and the git diff integration features. Tried all manner of editors prior to this and always got fed up with some feature or lack thereof. Not had that with Sublime yet, so I’ve stuck with it. With a dark theme of course, for those late night coding sessions.


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#29 2018-06-08 14:08:47

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Re: Microsoft has been talking to GitHub about possible acquisition

What plans does Microsoft have regarding GitHub’s Atom text editor (which obviously overlaps in target user with VS Code)?

Developers are really particular about their setup, and choosing an editor is one of the most personal decisions a developer makes. Languages change, jobs change, you often get a new computer or upgrade your OS, but you usually pick an editor and grow with it for years. The last thing I would want to do is take that decision away from Atom users. Atom is a fantastic editor with a healthy community, adoring fans, excellent design, and a promising foray into real-time collaboration. At Microsoft, we already use every editor from Atom to VS Code to Sublime to Vim, and we want developers to use any editor they prefer with GitHub. So we will continue to develop and support both Atom and VS Code going forward. – I’m Nat Friedman, future CEO of GitHub. AMA.

I love the first response was a complaint from an Emacs user.

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#30 2018-08-11 11:45:37

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Re: Microsoft has been talking to GitHub about possible acquisition

This thread turned into something about text editors, or something, but there’s more to the actual tragicomedy.

Gitlab is migrating to Google servers. Projects in many countries now blocked. Ugh.

Kneejerk leapfrogging from one centralized lillypad to another never seems to balance out, does it.

Bloke is right, if you ever do move, host you’re own. Gitea, for example.

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