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#277 2018-05-14 14:06:11

michaelkpate
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Re: Txp cookies, visitor logging, and GDPR stuff in general

Without adtech, the EU’s GDPR (General Data Protection Regulation) would never have happened. But the GDPR did happen, and as a result websites all over the world are suddenly posting notices about their changed privacy policies, use of cookies, and opt-in choices for “relevant” or “interest-based” (translation: tracking-based) advertising. Email lists are doing the same kinds of things. – GDPR will pop the adtech bubble

A lot to read in the essay and the comments, but basically Doc Searls thinks Google will do fine but Facebook is in trouble. If you want to read more on his Facebook take, you can read this Medium article if the site is still up.

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#278 2018-05-14 16:16:17

Destry
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Re: Txp cookies, visitor logging, and GDPR stuff in general

Anyone know if you can set the duration for how long Apache server logs keep records (e.g. number of days) on a hosted server, or is that strictly dictated by the web host?

I was just looking in my local .config file, but I don’t see anything there, unless I missed it.

It’s not a critical thing. I was just wondering how to answer the question, How long is the IP data kept (whether or not anonymized).

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#279 2018-05-15 08:45:14

Destry
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Re: Txp cookies, visitor logging, and GDPR stuff in general

My contents now looks like follows, all information on a single page. Each section is anchored and linked to from key places.

Contents:

  • 00 Relevant Laws
  • 01 Definitions
  • 02 Websites Concerned
  • 03 Controller
  • 04 Data Privacy
    • 4.1 Zero Data Collection
    • 4.2 Consent
  • 05 Processors
    • 5.1 Email Service Provider
    • 5.2 Web Host
  • 06 Outbound Links
  • 07 Copyright (Droit d’auteur)
  • 08 Changes

I’m ready to publish except there are statements about Txp’s IP compliance, which isn’t in affect until 4.7 stable release, technically, and WF (web host) is still not compliant.

But in regard to the latter, I was just looking at their PP and it says all IP data is anonymized on their servers (I think Jakob mentioned that too), and since I’m not using WF for contact mail, I wonder if I even have to have a DPA from them at all? It doesn’t seem like I do.

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#280 2018-05-15 08:48:15

philwareham
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Re: Txp cookies, visitor logging, and GDPR stuff in general

Textpattern 4.7.0 is being released today!

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#281 2018-05-15 11:55:35

jakob
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Re: Txp cookies, visitor logging, and GDPR stuff in general

philwareham wrote #311759:

Textpattern 4.7.0 is being released today!

Beer’s in the fridge! (And a new button’s appeared on the homepage ;-)

Good work you guys! ?


TXP Builders – finely-crafted code, design and txp

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#282 2018-05-16 08:22:25

Destry
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Re: Txp cookies, visitor logging, and GDPR stuff in general

For those on WF and wondering, they anonymize the IPs in their own server logs of general web visitors, but not the IPs in the logs of their clients’ websites (e.g. my situation). So you do need a DPA from them and write all the blah, blah, blah in the privacy policy about how you use (and not) the data. I have been informed they will be providing a DPA ‘in the next few days’. So I’ll have to wait to launch.

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#283 2018-05-19 06:07:21

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Re: Txp cookies, visitor logging, and GDPR stuff in general

(Data) Protection Racket

a GDPR template that might be of interest.


…. texted postive

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#284 2018-05-19 14:26:23

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Re: Txp cookies, visitor logging, and GDPR stuff in general

The article might be wrong but…

Nowhere in GDPR does it state that you need ‘consent’ for email marketing. For some reason, everyone got confused, and the big guns started their opt-in process and confused the heck out of everyone else. (www.spaghettiagency.co.uk/blog/gdpr-youre-doing-it-all-wrong/)


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#285 2018-05-19 16:15:04

michaelkpate
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Re: Txp cookies, visitor logging, and GDPR stuff in general

This article admits that no one knows anything.

Facebook has rearranged how it asks users for permission to collect data, but it also tells consumers to either submit or leave the service. That’s a violation of GDPR, according to Ryan and others. “Access to a service cannot be made conditional on data tracking,” he says. Facebook disagrees. “We’ve been preparing for more than a year to ensure Facebook complies with the GDPR,” a Facebook spokesman says. The wording of Facebook’s user agreement could just be a feeler from the company, seeing where the line will eventually be drawn once regulators start enforcing the laws. It’s similar to how many of companies are approaching GDPR. “It’s all a game of chicken with regulators,” Ryan says. – Playing Chicken with Regulators: Some Companies shrug off GDPR

I actually looked into geolocation technology a few weeks ago in order to see if I could come up with a way to block anyone from an EU country as a proof of concept.

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#286 2018-05-19 16:38:20

colak
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Re: Txp cookies, visitor logging, and GDPR stuff in general

michaelkpate wrote #311894:

This article admits that no one knows anything.

I actually looked into geolocation technology a few weeks ago in order to see if I could come up with a way to block anyone from an EU country as a proof of concept.

Hi Michael, please do not block us, but there is an htaccess way here.

<ifModule mod_geoip.c>
# Block visitors from EU member states
GeoIPEnable On
SetEnvIf GEOIP_COUNTRY_CODE AT DenyCountry
SetEnvIf GEOIP_COUNTRY_CODE BE DenyCountry
SetEnvIf GEOIP_COUNTRY_CODE BG DenyCountry
SetEnvIf GEOIP_COUNTRY_CODE HR DenyCountry
SetEnvIf GEOIP_COUNTRY_CODE CY DenyCountry
SetEnvIf GEOIP_COUNTRY_CODE CZ DenyCountry
SetEnvIf GEOIP_COUNTRY_CODE DK DenyCountry
SetEnvIf GEOIP_COUNTRY_CODE EE DenyCountry
SetEnvIf GEOIP_COUNTRY_CODE EG DenyCountry
SetEnvIf GEOIP_COUNTRY_CODE EE DenyCountry
SetEnvIf GEOIP_COUNTRY_CODE FI DenyCountry
SetEnvIf GEOIP_COUNTRY_CODE FR DenyCountry
SetEnvIf GEOIP_COUNTRY_CODE DE DenyCountry
SetEnvIf GEOIP_COUNTRY_CODE GR DenyCountry
SetEnvIf GEOIP_COUNTRY_CODE HU DenyCountry
SetEnvIf GEOIP_COUNTRY_CODE IE DenyCountry
SetEnvIf GEOIP_COUNTRY_CODE IT DenyCountry
SetEnvIf GEOIP_COUNTRY_CODE LV DenyCountry
SetEnvIf GEOIP_COUNTRY_CODE LT DenyCountry
SetEnvIf GEOIP_COUNTRY_CODE LU DenyCountry
SetEnvIf GEOIP_COUNTRY_CODE MT DenyCountry
SetEnvIf GEOIP_COUNTRY_CODE NL DenyCountry
SetEnvIf GEOIP_COUNTRY_CODE PL DenyCountry
SetEnvIf GEOIP_COUNTRY_CODE PT DenyCountry
SetEnvIf GEOIP_COUNTRY_CODE RO DenyCountry
SetEnvIf GEOIP_COUNTRY_CODE SI DenyCountry
SetEnvIf GEOIP_COUNTRY_CODE ES DenyCountry
SetEnvIf GEOIP_COUNTRY_CODE SE DenyCountry
Allow from all
Deny from env=DenyCountry
</ifModule>

> Edit:)

Last edited by colak (2018-05-19 16:53:28)


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#287 2018-05-19 17:02:19

colak
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Re: Txp cookies, visitor logging, and GDPR stuff in general

michaelkpate wrote #311894:

This article admits that no one knows anything.

On visiting the article my FF plugins blocked a number of tracking attempts from the particular page.


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#288 2018-05-19 17:49:54

michaelkpate
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Re: Txp cookies, visitor logging, and GDPR stuff in general

colak wrote #311896:

On visiting the article my FF plugins blocked a number of tracking attempts from the particular page.

It’s Advertising Age. Not too surprising they would have 7 forms of Analytics (Crazy Egg, Google Analytics, Quantcast, comScore, Chartbeat, new Relic, siteCatalyst) and 3 advertising networks (Doubleclick Campaign Manager, Doubleclick for Publishers, and Google AdSense).

Courtesy of https://www.wappalyzer.com/.

And I wasn’t actually going to block anyone. Especially after I watched this YouTube Video and the host said he still hasn’t bothered to put the cookie warning up on a lot of his sites.

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