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#133 2018-04-19 19:13:21
Re: Txp cookies, visitor logging, and GDPR stuff in general
From this interview
“What is data privacy? The term implies that if a company collects data about you, it should somehow protect that data. But I don’t think that’s the issue. I think the problem is that it collects data about you period. We shouldn’t let them do that.
“…I won’t let them collect data about me. I refuse to use the ones that would know who I am.”
– Richard Stallman
+1
Inspiring read.
“Companies that have websites or apps tend to screw people over by collecting data about them. I think we need a law that requires every system to be designed in a way that achieves its basic goal with the least-possible collection of data.”
Stallman and I seem to agree on a lot. :}
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#134 2018-04-20 03:33:30
Re: Txp cookies, visitor logging, and GDPR stuff in general
When I was graduating from high school, my brother gave me a copy of Stephen Levy’s Hackers. The book, which is a great history of computing for the first 25 years dating back to 1960, ends on a really sad note.
It tells the story of the last MIT Hacker, who got there as most everyone was leaving, and was valiantly fighting a losing battle of trying to keep software free. At the very end he comes up with this idea to write a new version of UNIX using totally original code. Which seemed like a cool idea but was never going to catch on in the mainstream.
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#135 2018-04-20 05:57:09
Re: Txp cookies, visitor logging, and GDPR stuff in general
An interview with Richard Stallman, the Emacs and GNU developer. No Company Is So Important Its Existence Justifies Setting Up a Police State
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#136 2018-04-20 06:16:43
Re: Txp cookies, visitor logging, and GDPR stuff in general
colak wrote #311241:
An interview with Richard Stallman, the Emacs and GNU developer. No Company Is So Important Its Existence Justifies Setting Up a Police State
That’s the interview I just linked to above. ;)
Funny, though. When I run the NYmag link through macOS Safari’s Reader, it gives this title: Richard Stallman, RMS, on Privacy, Data, and Free Software.
And when I run it through the Reader on iOS, it gives this title: ‘F*ck Them. We Need a Law’: A Legendary Programmer Takes on Silicon Valley.
I don’t know how they do that, and whether it’s a dodgy SEO tactic (probably), but I kind of like the result from a content negotiation aspect.
That last title is quite misleading about Stallman’s sentiments, however. He says some very sage things in the interview about where the real problem lies, and it’s not exactly where everyone (myself included) keeps pointing the finger (e.g. Silicon Valley, FB, etc.) He reminds us that yes, a lot of today’s horrible tech companies come out of SV, but not every company there is doing bad (Purism comes to mind). Likewise, bringing FB down is certainly warranted, but that’s not going to address the existing data collection problems that nearly every company in the world uses, and worse still, governments, whenever they want.
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#137 2018-04-20 06:29:16
Re: Txp cookies, visitor logging, and GDPR stuff in general
I think your signature is a little shy on links, Michael. ;)
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#138 2018-04-20 13:50:25
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#139 2018-04-20 14:31:52
Re: Txp cookies, visitor logging, and GDPR stuff in general
Meanwhile, on the implementation front: Reuters – Facebook to put 1.5 billion users out of reach of new EU privacy law
(data for all FB users, except US + Canada, was ‘owned’ by the Irish subsidiary; now all non-EU users will be owned by the main office).
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#140 2018-04-20 14:57:37
Re: Txp cookies, visitor logging, and GDPR stuff in general
phiw13 wrote #311251:
(data for all FB users, except US + Canada, was ‘owned’ by the Irish subsidiary; now all non-EU users will be owned by the main office).
And LinkedIn, likewise I see. This piece of spin is a hoot:
We’ve simply streamlined the contract location to ensure all members understand the LinkedIn entity responsible for their personal data.
Riiiight. Streamlined.
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#141 2018-04-21 05:08:24
Re: Txp cookies, visitor logging, and GDPR stuff in general
Bloke wrote #311252:
Riiiight. Streamlined.
Yeah. It gets worse: the option(s) to delete an account if you don’t feel like accepting the new conditions is a tiny thing overwhelmed by the ”I accept” button (tech crunch report).
Technically they probably comply with the GDPR. “Technically”, in some lawyerese dialect.
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#142 2018-04-21 10:34:28
Re: Txp cookies, visitor logging, and GDPR stuff in general
Just deleted my LI account. Exploiting me for 11 years and I got nothing from it but spam. Good riddance!
I’ll work some of that data into my own biz site creatively and I’ll OWN MY DATA!
I was spending some time on LI last night, just to look at things before departure, and beside the fans running loud and hot from doing so, it really struck me how much LinkedIn is becoming a kind of Facebook-Twitter hybrid in they way the UI is designed, and the engagement their trying to cultivate. Just because it’s about business doesn’t make it any less exploitative. They even embrace the whole ad culture as much as any of them do, even more. One of your Settings tabs is called “Ads”, FFS. And a lot of peers I know are more active their than on Twitter now.
In the final screen of scare tactics to get you to change your mind, they have you confirm your password. There’s a check box you have to click to not have them harass you later to rejoin. This pisses me off because it’s the exact opposite of what the default behavior should be, and could be argued as a violation of the GDPR.
That also says to me, which I already believed anyway, that these companies may say they delete your data, but they don’t really. (In fact, they don’t actually say that either, come to think of it. They only say things like ‘you won’t have access to it anymore.’ Or ‘it will not be indexed in 3 weeks,’ or whatever.) It’s sitting somewhere on a backup server waiting to be exploited at the opportune time. The advantage of quitting though is they have to be sneaky about using it now.
I hope everyone of them get nailed hard by legal suits and they hemorrhage money right and left.
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#143 2018-04-21 16:26:33
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even though i deleted my LinkedIn account over 3 years ago i still get emails about other LI folks. seems like i am not really “deleted”. #badLI
…. texted postive
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#144 2018-04-21 16:53:30
Re: Txp cookies, visitor logging, and GDPR stuff in general
I still get persistent LinkedIn invites even though I’ve never been on it.
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