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Re: Themes exploring
Bloke wrote #309407:
The only time the theme will take effect for real, for all users, is when you assign a Theme/Page/Style combo to one or more Sections form the Sections panel. Once you commit that, the pages are live. Until then, nothing happens as far as site visitors are concerned.
Ok. That’s one key nail I needed.
As an “outsider”, feel free to grab the reins on that as you get to grips with it :-)
Gladly. Had to get my head around it all first, and that requires this exchange with the master engineer. ;)
One thing we might need in the final release is a pophelp entry alongside the title on the Themes panel itself, like we have on the Forms panel. To give a general overview of what themes are. And what they’re not. Again, any ideas for wording there, stick it in the pophelp repo.
Noted.
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Re: Themes exploring
Bloke wrote #309408:
You can still assign a different Page template and a different Stylesheet to one or more Sections. The only difference is that those Pages/Stylesheets may belong to a different collection that you’ve arbitrarily grouped under a Theme because they offer the same sort of look and feel … It’s all really just smoke and mirrors. Textpattern already had themes, sort of, it’s just there was no structure to them.
This might be why I was tripping myself. I was imagining some radical new change to doing presentations… A missile-launch console with colored buttons that read “Fire theme 1”, “Fire theme 2”, etc and then watch as the crowd goes Oo! and Aw! at the glorious lightning-filled sky mushroom.
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Just as a note: I’ll be doing the pophelp items for themes panel soon.
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Okay, Phil.
Meanwhile, can someone point me to where I can find a .txt version of the 4.7dev “default” page markup and the “default” style CSS? I need to start over there so to not screw up the default (Hive) theme. Otherwise I’ll have to start over at the DB/install level, me thinks.
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Ya. Thanks.
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For reference, first pass at a pophelp entry on the Themes panel. Amendments welcome.
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I’ve been gradually getting my head around themes, and there’s still more to explore with respect to importing/exporting, which I may never really need to do, in fact.
But I do see now how genius the design of themes is Bloke, and how, for someone like me who changes their mind all the time about site design, and often wants to start over fresh to keep design versions, rather than change existing templates, this is huge. And the simple context switching to see the front-side… I don’t know why I had trouble with grasping that at first, but now that I do, I love it.
Anyway, I just want to say, in case you had any doubts about it, good show, man. It’s sweet work.
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Destry wrote #311087:
But I do see now how genius the design of themes is
Aww shucks, thanks :-)
the simple context switching to see the front-side… I don’t know why I had trouble with grasping that at first, but now that I do, I love it.
Cool. The thing is, if you didn’t grasp it at first then we need to find out what we can do to help other people over the hump quicker. Whether that’s documentation, UI hints or something else, we’re always open to ideas on how to make it more transparent and easier to pick up. To paraphrase one of my fave quotes: we should help people to hit the ground running, not hit the ground.
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