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Re: Feedback to: Textpattern CMS 4.6.0 beta 3 released
philwareham wrote #300958:
Sure, create a pull request of the code and I’ll look over it.
So you’re telling me there’s a chance!
Bloke wrote #300961:
Longer term, drag ‘n drop reorderable blocks. So if you, for example, don’t like the Save button where it is on one panel, drag it somewhere else. It’ll remember that position for you and you alone. It’s your workflow, after all. No endless prefs, no fuss.
Drag ‘n Drop, yes I’ve heard this mentioned before. But wouldn’t time constraints push such a feature far out, years out?
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Re: Feedback to: Textpattern CMS 4.6.0 beta 3 released
hcgtv wrote #300962:
Drag ‘n Drop… wouldn’t time constraints push such a feature far out, years out?
Depends on how many code contributions we get :-) I could dig the roadmap out, but illness, availability and more bugs than we’d envisaged have made that embarrassingly out-of-date.
We do still intend to increase the frequency of releases from now on, so there’s a chance it won’t be years!
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Re: Feedback to: Textpattern CMS 4.6.0 beta 3 released
Bloke wrote #300963:
Depends on how many code contributions we get :-)
Not to beat a dead horse, but if the project looks like it’s not moving forward, the front page hasn’t been updated in quite a long time, how are you going to attract coders?
There’s more to a project than code, the appearance of progress attracts new blood more so than a new txp:tag.
Let me give you an example, 4.6.0 beta 3 is out, where is that mentioned on the front page?
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Re: Feedback to: Textpattern CMS 4.6.0 beta 3 released
hcgtv wrote #300964:
where is that mentioned on the front page?
textpattern.com/weblog/390/textpattern-cms-460-beta-3-released
Not on the front page, but then the blog articles don’t land there… yet. Presumably when the refresh hits the streets, they’ll do so.
The new site repo is available and was updated just a few hours ago. By all means get involved.
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Re: Feedback to: Textpattern CMS 4.6.0 beta 3 released
The actions links look really scattered and cluttered. I’d love to see those links presented:
- as just icons and use titles/tootips for the descriptions,
- consolidated into one tool area, on one line (jquery-ui-control-group)
- the expand collapse all consolidated into one button.
I believe that is in line with a lot of other interfaces for apps on the web i have used.
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Re: Feedback to: Textpattern CMS 4.6.0 beta 3 released
mrdale wrote #300966:
The actions links look really scattered and cluttered. I’d love to see those links presented:
- as just icons and use titles/tootips for the descriptions,
- consolidated into one tool area, on one line
- the expand collapse all consolidated into one button.
I believe that is in line with a lot of other interfaces for apps on the web i have used.
The UI for 4.6 is pretty much final (apart from the debate over where save buttons would be best placed). So any further changes will have to be done in the 4.7 cycle. I’ll keep your suggestions in mind during that process.
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Re: Feedback to: Textpattern CMS 4.6.0 beta 3 released
So another 3 years for a couple of class assignments. Mkay. I’ll take solace in the fact that at least we’ve supported people using screen readers and dyslexia mitigation plugins. ;)
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Re: Feedback to: Textpattern CMS 4.6.0 beta 3 released
Well no, the next release will be much quicker hopefully. And it’s not just a couple of class assignments (for example: how exactly do you propose a single button that toggles expand all and collapse all? If you have half your widgets expanded, which do you want it to do, expand or collapse?).
Whilst I could constantly do all the suggestions by all the users for all their personal preferences, I think getting 4.6 released now is the priority – and we can agree that the UI is better than it was at 4.4 and 4.5, and will be better again at 4.7.
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Re: Feedback to: Textpattern CMS 4.6.0 beta 3 released
philwareham wrote #300970:
(…) and we can agree that the UI is better than it was at 4.4 and 4.5, and will be better again at 4.7.
It’s significantly better. Thanks.
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Re: Feedback to: Textpattern CMS 4.6.0 beta 3 released
Obviously, It’s better.
philwareham wrote #300970:
can agree that the UI is better than it was at 4.4 and 4.5, and will be better again at 4.7.
Obviously, dramatically better. Thank you Phil for all your hard work. I mean that sincerely.
I just don’t appreciate the tendency to resist constructive input on the UI.
I also don’t appreciate disingenuous edge-case arguments, when there’s a much simpler and more defensible reason.
ie “we’re using sprite maps because jquery-ui which we leverage heavily uses them, and we don’t need to reivent the wheel.”
The cluster of links and text at the top of the write panel is just messy and complicated when it should be simple, logical and unobtrusive.
Further, since we’re already leveraging jquery-ui, why not just use their design patterns where appropriate ie, the control group
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Re: Feedback to: Textpattern CMS 4.6.0 beta 3 released
I’ve already noted your constructive comments and stated that I will seriously bear them in mind during the next development phase.
UI development is hard and everyone has an opinion on it, its also never finished.
I also build in the best accessibility I can because it’s an area that interests me and is the right thing to do, even if most people overlook or dismiss it. This creates extra challenges but I enjoy that (and don’t we do open source to learn new things? I certainly don’t do it for the money).
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Re: Feedback to: Textpattern CMS 4.6.0 beta 3 released
Agree, and thanks again for your work. I think it’s important though not to degrade the experience for the overwhelming majority of users in order to tick a box for an a minority that we’re not even sure exists.
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