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#85 2016-08-25 15:37:10

hcgtv
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Re: Feedback to: Textpattern CMS 4.6.0 beta 2 released

philwareham wrote #300807:

Neither of those – see here

Firefox is showing it on the left, which takes away space.

Can it be toggled off in preferences?

PS. Never mind, the demo site has the menu on the right, which threw me. I see the tag builder popup, nice.

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#86 2016-08-25 15:39:25

philwareham
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Re: Feedback to: Textpattern CMS 4.6.0 beta 2 released

Huh? It’s a moveable dialog pane, drag it wherever you like! Just checked in Firefox here and it works as intended. Or do you mean the page list?

EDIT: oh :)

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#87 2016-08-25 16:55:55

gaekwad
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Re: Feedback to: Textpattern CMS 4.6.0 beta 2 released

Uh, maybe I missed a memo: multisite stuff isn’t in beta 1 or 2.

No /sites directory.

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#88 2016-08-25 16:59:03

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Re: Feedback to: Textpattern CMS 4.6.0 beta 2 released

@gaekwad, you have to download the tgz version for multi-site support:
textpattern-4.6.0-beta.2.tar.gz

The zip archive hasn’t included multi-site for a while now.

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#89 2016-08-25 17:01:29

gaekwad
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Re: Feedback to: Textpattern CMS 4.6.0 beta 2 released

johnstephens wrote #300819:

The zip archive hasn’t included multi-site for a while now.

Ah, I have a hazy memory of this, now you mention it – thanks for the reminder!

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#90 2016-08-25 21:34:32

Bloke
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Re: Feedback to: Textpattern CMS 4.6.0 beta 2 released

philwareham wrote #300803:

theme assets, PSR-style coding

And documentation! A vast number of functions have chunky PHPDoc style headers now, with parameter lists and code examples. And every file has a full preamble copyright message. That takes up a tonne of space. As Phil mentioned, adopting the PSR convention of spaces-instead-of-tabs nearly doubled the byte count in one commit (it would have almost tripled it, but we reduced the core’s bizarre double-indentation overall by one tab stop).

Combined with the fact that a lot of code has been split into multiple files now (and a lot of old functions are still around as stubs for backwards compatibility, that simply use classes in the vendors directory), it adds up to a lot more bytes in comment blocks alone.

I’m with Bert on the whole size thing. I love mean and lean where amazing stuff was packed into a tiny footprint. Harks back to my Amiga days where you had no choice but to cram cram cram, when all you had available was 900KB on a floppy disk. But try and debug one of those suckers. Disassembling that was an art! At least with docs and classes the code’s more readable. The price of progress, as you say.


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#91 2016-08-25 22:49:19

hcgtv
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Re: Feedback to: Textpattern CMS 4.6.0 beta 2 released

Bloke wrote #300824:

And documentation! A vast number of functions have chunky PHPDoc style headers now, with parameter lists and code examples. And every file has a full preamble copyright message. That takes up a tonne of space. As Phil mentioned, adopting the PSR convention of spaces-instead-of-tabs nearly doubled the byte count in one commit (it would have almost tripled it, but we reduced the core’s bizarre double-indentation overall by one tab stop).

Ok, yes, this would definitely add bytes to the files, but more documentation is mucho welcome.

Combined with the fact that a lot of code has been split into multiple files now (and a lot of old functions are still around as stubs for backwards compatibility, that simply use classes in the vendors directory), it adds up to a lot more bytes in comment blocks alone.

Been out of the loop for a bit, I’ve missed a lot of these changes, I will do a comparison of 4.5.7 and 4.6.0.

I’m with Bert on the whole size thing. I love mean and lean where amazing stuff was packed into a tiny footprint. Harks back to my Amiga days where you had no choice but to cram cram cram, when all you had available was 900KB on a floppy disk. But try and debug one of those suckers. Disassembling that was an art! At least with docs and classes the code’s more readable. The price of progress, as you say.

My first IBM class PC was a Compaq portable, 10MB hard drive. Was always shuffling stuff to 5 1/4 inch floppies.

Must stop deviating or I’ll get the thread patrol after me :)

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#92 2016-08-26 09:18:29

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Re: Feedback to: Textpattern CMS 4.6.0 beta 2 released

Phil: what’s the current ETA for beta 3, please? Thanks!

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#93 2016-08-26 09:23:09

philwareham
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Re: Feedback to: Textpattern CMS 4.6.0 beta 2 released

gaekwad wrote #300828:

Phil: what’s the current ETA for beta 3, please? Thanks!

Hi Pete, just waiting for Stef and Oleg to finish up the new tag builder (Oleg has been away from computer this week). A couple of AJAX issues with it left to fix and we are good to go.

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#94 2016-08-26 09:23:43

gaekwad
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Re: Feedback to: Textpattern CMS 4.6.0 beta 2 released

Perfect – thanks for the update.

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#95 2016-08-26 16:37:07

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Re: Feedback to: Textpattern CMS 4.6.0 beta 2 released

hcgtv wrote:

Must stop deviating or I’ll get the thread patrol after me :)

Ah, the good old days. Anecdotal flourishes always welcome, my POV. I think it might rather be a Textpattern related kind of change of topic that readers usually find hard to follow and hence moderators tried to get back together.

Anyway: Shalom, Bert, good to see you back.


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#96 2016-08-26 17:23:51

hcgtv
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Re: Feedback to: Textpattern CMS 4.6.0 beta 2 released

uli wrote #300831:

Anyway: Shalom, Bert, good to see you back.

You can check-out any time you like, but you can never leave!

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