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#31 2015-10-23 15:19:56

gaekwad
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Re: Request for comment: dropping support for IE8/IE9

With my feature creep hat on, I’m rolling my eyes – but flexbox is the hotness, so I’m taking my hat off.

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#32 2015-10-23 15:24:36

philwareham
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Re: Request for comment: dropping support for IE8/IE9

He he. Well it would be good to get the layout structure 100% watertight now since the layout has already changed significantly post-4.5, which will force plugin authors/theme authors some upgrade pain. Otherwise we might have to amend HTML/classnames again at 4.7 (something I’m keen to avoid).

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#33 2015-10-23 15:46:41

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Re: Request for comment: dropping support for IE8/IE9

philwareham wrote #296135:

Just been testing flexbox, I think I could build out a grid layout option for the images panel fairly quickly with that. Maybe even in time for a 4.6 release. So in that case we would state IE10 as the minimum IE version we support.

If you can list each of the ui things that would benefit from flexbox I will let ok into them.

So far:

1. Image grid (kind of a card layout).
2. Form label and inputs side-by-side.
3. List navigation widget.
5. Search widget (the new proposed one?).
6. Layout columns.

I think this is a great step forward. And because it is limited to the backend, it’s justifiable request at least IE10 or other modern browser (there are enough).

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#34 2015-10-23 18:37:32

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Re: Request for comment: dropping support for IE8/IE9

philwareham wrote #296139:

Nobody really uses ie9 anyway, so it wouldn’t be a great loss to not support it.

According to the graph I shared no one uses ie10 either…Anyone using Windows 7 or later has access to ie11.

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#35 2015-10-23 19:29:35

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Re: Request for comment: dropping support for IE8/IE9

With my feature creep hat on, I’m rolling my eyes – but flexbox is the hotness, so I’m taking my hat off.

I loved that!


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#36 2015-10-24 10:09:01

philwareham
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Re: Request for comment: dropping support for IE8/IE9

michaelkpate wrote #296158:

According to the graph I shared no one uses ie10 either…Anyone using Windows 7 or later has access to ie11.

True, but IE10 supports flexbox (via prefixing) so I don’t have to go out of my way to support that browser.

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#37 2015-11-02 13:00:58

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Re: Request for comment: dropping support for IE8/IE9

philwareham wrote #296173:

True, but IE10 supports flexbox (via prefixing) so I don’t have to go out of my way to support that browser.

Interesting conversation here: Should I structure my new website using CSS Flexbox completely?

Well IE10 is non-standard and you have to write separate CSS for nowadays standard and separate for IE10. Wanna do that?

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#38 2015-11-02 13:05:08

phiw13
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Re: Request for comment: dropping support for IE8/IE9

michaelkpate wrote #296374:

Interesting conversation here: Should I structure my new website using CSS Flexbox completely?

That’s at least 9 month old, according to what passes for a date stamp on the page, fwiw.


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#39 2015-11-02 13:11:53

philwareham
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Re: Request for comment: dropping support for IE8/IE9

IE10 uses the older Flexbox spec (and prefixes it too), but it’s not hard to code round it. For example (from latest Hive theme):

-webkit-flex: 1; // Safari 7/8
-ms-flex: 1 1 0%; // IE 10
flex: 1; // Modern browsers (2014/2015 W3C spec)
display: -webkit-flex; // Safari 7/8
display: -ms-flexbox; // IE 10
display: flex; // Modern browsers (2014/2015 W3C spec)

Philip Walton provides a comprehensive list of flexbox bugs to make life easier too.

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#40 2015-11-02 15:17:20

michaelkpate
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Re: Request for comment: dropping support for IE8/IE9

phiw13 wrote #296375:

That’s at least 9 month old, according to what passes for a date stamp on the page, fwiw.

I was reading it on my phone – didn’t even notice.

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#41 2015-12-17 22:03:15

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Re: Request for comment: dropping support for IE8/IE9

Jen from Mozilla just asked…

https://twitter.com/jensimmons/status/677526187825078273

If you look at the responses (need a twitter client) you’ll see a lot of this at first… “As of January, I only support IE25! Yee-haw!

But it starts turning into this real quick… “Check the stats for the website and decide from there, duh.

With some old veterans doing their typical admonishing… “It’s your job to support back to the Neanderthal flint stones. I do, so you should too.”

Just thought I’d give this tired and boring subject a bump. ;)

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