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#1 2015-10-01 16:16:13

Destry
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El Capi

Anyone made the El Capitan update yet and know what might need fixed for the local AMP stack to run again (not talking about MAMP or XAMPP). I haven’t updated yet, but usually with OS X updates you have to rejig a few Apache files to get local dev aligned again. Uncomment a few lines in the php.ini file, or whatever. I’ll give it a day, I guess.

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#2 2015-10-01 20:15:19

Bloke
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Re: El Capi

Have they fixed the font issues on non-retina MacBooks yet? I tried Yosemite on a retina Mac in a shop and it looked truly sumptuous. Yet on a non-retina MacBook, the system font was atrocious. Inconsistent vertical thickness, and almost jaggy-looking corners in the menu bar. Bleurgh!

I have a mid-2012 non-retina MBP, so I’ve stuck with Mavericks for the time being. Since I use the damn thing for upwards of four or five hours a day in the evenings (even with the awesome f.lux to soothe my eyes) I can’t compromise on font clarity. Anyone have any first-hand experience/reports on whether the San Francisco system font is more readable than Helvetica Neue on non-retina displays?


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#3 2015-10-01 21:36:55

gomedia
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Re: El Capi

Destry wrote #295311:

Anyone made the El Capitan update yet and know what might need fixed for the local AMP stack to run again …

This might help. The Yosemite version worked well for me.

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#4 2015-10-02 11:11:15

Destry
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Re: El Capi

gomedia: Thank you!

Bloke: I have a late 2011 MBP, non-retina. Now running Yosemite, 10.10.5. I’ve never had any noticeable problems, but then I don’t have anything to compare to either.

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#5 2015-10-02 11:34:55

Algaris
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Re: El Capi

I hear once you look at a retina display it ruins you for anything else ;-)

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#6 2015-10-02 12:12:55

Bloke
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Re: El Capi

Destry wrote #295330:

running Yosemite, 10.10.5. I’ve never had any noticeable problems, but then I don’t have anything to compare to either.

From what I heard, it’s not a universal problem but some combination of X and Y and not Z means you get a banjaxed experience. Sod’s law says it’d be mine so I’ve steered clear for now.

If the San Francisco font is free of such random issues, I may well take the plunge in a month or two when they’ve ironed out the bugs.


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#7 2015-10-02 12:47:04

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Re: El Capi

I’m on a non retina MacBook Air, running Yosemite. All is fine. Don’t think a jaggy font issue would be wide spread – Apple OS releases are usually really well tested.

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#8 2015-10-02 18:59:55

Bloke
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Re: El Capi

towndock wrote #295337:

I’m on a non retina MacBook Air, running Yosemite. All is fine.

Maybe they fixed it then. It was an issue shortly after it was released, maybe an incremental update fixed it and I missed the memo.


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#9 2015-10-04 15:02:49

Destry
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Re: El Capi

El Capo installed. It took about 7 hours from download to update to login. At login the system seemed to get stuck in a constant “updating” mode when setting up iCloud. Eventually I just did a hard shutoff of the system and restarted, then it logged in fine and no apparent issues yet.

Re-establishing my local AMP was just a matter of opening http.conf and uncommenting these:

  • line 103: LoadModule include_module libexec/apache2/mod_include.so
  • line 166: LoadModule userdir_module libexec/apache2/mod_userdir.so
  • line 168: LoadModule rewrite_module libexec/apache2/mod_rewrite.so
  • line 169: LoadModule php5_module libexec/apache2/libphp5.so
  • line 493: Include /private/etc/apache2/extra/httpd-userdir.conf
  • line 499: Include /private/etc/apache2/extra/httpd-vhosts.conf

The last one I’m not sure I even needed, but I uncommented it anyway.

Then I restarted Apache and restarted MySQL, both from command-line and all is working.

I can’t seem to open files with the “mate” command anymore, for example…

mate whatever/file.conf

I currently have to use…

open -a TextMate whatever/file.conf

So I’m guessing my batch file needs recreated as the final step, or whatever. I’ll have to look at that next.

Last edited by Destry (2015-10-04 15:06:39)

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#10 2015-10-05 07:08:56

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Re: El Capi

Destry wrote #295381:

I can’t seem to open files with the “mate” command anymore, for example…

mate whatever/file.conf...

Check that the command-line tools for your editor are still installed (or check for an updated version?). Those should be installed in /usr/local/. If your editor installs them elsewhere (e.g. /usr/bin or what ever), there is a big chance they won’t work – SIP (System Integrity Protection) in action.


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#11 2015-10-05 08:06:09

Destry
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Re: El Capi

Thanks, phiw13. Will do. That’s probably it.

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#12 2015-10-05 11:14:49

philwareham
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Re: El Capi

@bloke

The OS font has been replaced in El Capitan. Now uses San Francisco in OSX just like in iOS. See here

I’m running El Cap on my work machine now with no great problems. Feels snappier than the last OS. I have the upcoming El Cap point release as beta on my home mac so you may want to wait for the official release of that – probably won’t be long to wait (already on beta3 of it).

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