Is the development of Textpattern at the end?

mrdale · 2014-09-20 06:15:19

Gocom wrote #283911: I’m still here and there, and still thinking about tech. Starting from May, I’ve been laid off from work and thus my hiatus of sorts.

THAT’s a smackdown? Come on… that’s not like you… gimme something I can work with.

[gocommunist manifesto]

gaekwad · 2014-09-20 08:50:10

^^^ You missed a p. tag, mrdale, and your quote syntax is all wonky.

YOU’RE WELCOME.

Gocom · 2014-09-20 19:04:44

In reply to mrdale #283926:

THAT’s a smackdown?

Who the fuck would integrate a toaster into a bathtub? That’s the stupidest fucking idea I’ve heard from you, mate.

gaekwad wrote #283933:

^^^ You missed a p. tag, mrdale, and your quote syntax is all wonky.

YOU’RE WELCOME.

Which then fucking breaks quoting his posts. Mr. incognito doesn’t want to be quoted.

^(Enough?)

GugUser · 2014-09-20 19:44:30

Is the account of Gocom hacked?

gaekwad · 2014-09-20 20:13:07

Gocom wrote #283950:

^(Enough?)

Welcome back. I’ll admit it: I missed you, Jukka-san.

gaekwad · 2014-09-20 20:15:52

GugUser wrote #283951:

Is the account of Gocom hacked?

Unlikely. He just missed us the last few months, I think.

Gocom · 2014-09-20 20:44:35

GugUser wrote #283951:

Is the account of Gocom hacked?

This hacker sure has the same sense of humor as this “Gocom” fella.

gaekwad wrote #283952:

Jukka-san.

Please hold me Pete-senpai.

gaekwad · 2014-09-20 21:12:29

Gocom wrote #283954:

Please hold me Pete-senpai.

Raise a pull request and we’ll talk.

MattD · 2014-09-22 15:31:00

Gocom wrote #283954:

This hacker sure has the same sense of humor as this “Gocom” fella.

Comments like this make me wish there was a way to “like” forum posts.

michaelkpate · 2014-09-22 16:10:55

MattD wrote #284054:

Comments like this make me wish there was a way to “like” forum posts.

I look for a way to do that quite often.

gaekwad · 2014-09-22 16:13:42

MattD wrote #284054:

Comments like this make me wish there was a way to “like” forum posts.

fluxbb.org/resources/mods/like-mod/ – it’s doable.

Edit: technically possible, but not viable here – see Phil’s post here

Last edited by gaekwad (2014-09-23 09:14:45)

bici · 2014-09-22 16:55:54

gaekwad wrote #283956:

Raise a pull request and we’ll talk.

I thought we didn’t allow porn or solicitations on this forum?

philwareham · 2014-09-22 18:43:42

gaekwad wrote #284059:

fluxbb.org/resources/mods/like-mod/ – it’s doable.

Sorry, we don’t modify the forum codebase in any way because it breaks upgrades, so it’s not doable (not until FluxBB has a proper plugin/extension system anyway).

gaekwad · 2014-09-23 09:15:52

philwareham wrote #284070:

Sorry, we don’t modify the forum codebase in any way because it breaks upgrades, so it’s not doable […].

No worries, Phil – I’ve edited my post.

kno · 2014-11-15 15:47:17

Hi there,

coming a bit late to this discussion, I would like to add some thoughts of mine:

My background: I’ve built a couple of websites, as a hobby (or call it ambition); my first CMS was textpattern. Over the years I’ve had a look at a couple of others, but there was always something missing (e. g. elegance, community or developer support, documentation, features etc.). Professionally I’m doing business development, sales support and marketing stuff (blogging etc.) for a software integrator in Germany.

One of the best contenders of textpattern in my view is statamic. A couple of days ago I’ve had a look at metalsmith, which is cool, but some of the promoted essential plugins are not even working. I don’t like to fiddle with pure PHP in templates, but besides that I have some sympathy for Kirby, ProcessWire and Perch.

I’m the admin and one of the main authors of this wordpress blog . Security and performance is a mess! You need too much plugins for a proper blog. “Code is poetry”? – not with wordpress. But for the authors it’s great.

My view on textpattern from the outside

I want to be honest, but don’t want to offend anyone. Let’s start:

One official blog post per years is disappointing. When I had a look on the contributors’ websites a year ago or so, they where almost dead (as far as I remember it). This made it difficult, to decide whom to donate some money, to become a patron and support the project (one has to decide that).

The Wiki is great, put the plugin directory sucks. You never know, whether the plugin (still) works, information is scattered among the directory, forum, plugin authors’ websites etc. Which one should I take? Time for an overhaul, or?

You have to buy the textpattern book, to get some hints on best practices (which are nice to know, because with textpattern there is always more than one way to do or start things.

There should be one simple, clear and well maintained hub of information. This would need more than four people, I assume.

It seems to me that there is lot to do – e. g. the mysql change, functional enhancements and the overall accessibility of correct information. If we truly believe, that the world needs textpattern (and I do!), why not kick of a crowdfunding campaign?

All the stuff needs time and dedication which obviously has some friction with other obligations. And it would be good for greater visibility as well, if done well. With a clearly defined scope of enhancements…

From the inside

Textpattern has a clean back-end, which is nice. But essential workflows for authors are too clumsy OOTB. We have to keep them in mind…

image handling for authors is awful
txp:image or txp:images should be available on the articles tab with a click (if you keep the image handling like it is today)
I really like textile, but syntax highlighting would be great for articles (actually for all edit areas) – rah_textile_bar is a must as well then
why do I need the smd_browse_by plugin to browser assets by category – this should be part of the core
arc_meta is great (and was overdue), but again: SEO should be part of the core (even Wordpress fails there)
As a developer the custom fields are great, but as an author you have to know which to fill where (and which not) – bot_write_tab_customize is a great help there, and makes it easier to guide authors – it feels like an essential plugin as well
Unlimited categories? I’m fine with the category hierarchy and two main categories, but: tags suck! As far as I know one still needs a plugin to make the keywords become real tags. This should be part of core. The tag plugins seem to challenge performance (I’ve had a look once at tru_tags but it didn’t feel right)
Import / export of “templates” (all the bits and pieces) should be part of core – and I’m not talking about Wordpress end-user style, just that the developers can handle it better (cxc_template is fine)
Something similar to the craft matrix would be great, because this is a very contemporary way of creating content; I don’t know enough about the textpattern internals, but I imagine, that the custom forms could possibly be extended somehow (filled with content instead of code) in combination with a sexy drag&drop interface. “Body” and “excerpt” aren’t enough anymore. Perch seems to do a nice job in this regard (Statamic as well), but this would very likely need a different data model, or?

Finally: Thank you all!

Core developers, plugin authors and all the textpattern lovers. Textpattern is still worth it. I’m happy to help, wherever I can.

All the best
Kai

Textpattern CMS support forum

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#63 2014-09-20 19:04:44

Re: Is the development of Textpattern at the end?

In reply to mrdale #283926:

gaekwad wrote #283933:

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#65 2014-09-20 20:13:07

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Gocom wrote #283950:

#66 2014-09-20 20:15:52

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GugUser wrote #283951:

#67 2014-09-20 20:44:35

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GugUser wrote #283951:

gaekwad wrote #283952:

#68 2014-09-20 21:12:29

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Gocom wrote #283954:

#69 2014-09-22 15:31:00

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Gocom wrote #283954:

#70 2014-09-22 16:10:55

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MattD wrote #284054:

#71 2014-09-22 16:13:42

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MattD wrote #284054:

#72 2014-09-22 16:55:54

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gaekwad wrote #283956:

#73 2014-09-22 18:43:42

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gaekwad wrote #284059:

#74 2014-09-23 09:15:52

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philwareham wrote #284070:

#75 2014-11-15 15:47:17

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