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Re: Textpattern would be more popular if??
towndock wrote:
whaleen might have been joking, but I’ll make a blasphemous comment here in Textpattern land: I loath Textpattern mustard yellow.
:)
I was joking but part of me thinks there is some truth in that joke.
I really love the theme that Phil put together and am really happy he is part of the team. I’ve mean’t for some time now to find and replace all the yellow references in his theme with a matched-weight greyscale color. Not for the sake of being blasphemous but simply for the sake of clients who want their “back office”, as they say, branded. I sport the yellow loud and proud on my personal sites.
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Re: Textpattern would be more popular if??
Hmmm. Interesting. Maybe I should provide some ‘drop in’ alternative colour schemes going forward. I’m struggling through the jQuery UI integration at the moment but I’ll see what I can do to modularise the colourways after that’s done.
Same for the front side theme, which is actually based on my (grey) dev framework so that’d be a doddle.
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Re: Textpattern would be more popular if??
Sample themes would definitely help popularize textpattern
…. texted postive
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I’ve just collaborated on a new theme (minimum) – keep them coming and i’ll try to help out where I can.
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Re: Textpattern would be more popular if??
philwareham wrote:
Same for the front side theme, which is actually based on my (grey) dev framework so that’d be a doddle.
Wow! You already have that. The grey version. I had a thought once that a grey version ought to be included in the core and the option to choose from thumbnails on install which admin template should be used:
- Give me TXP Yellow
- Give me bland, I’d rather choose my own colors if any / I’m an fussy minimalist.
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ps any progress in being able to add a custom Logo to the back end admin? (i would post this in the other forum but custom search by google is down)
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Re: Textpattern would be more popular if??
@philwareham Do you keep your grey dev framework anywhere I could nab it from by chance? Github?
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Re: Textpattern would be more popular if??
@whaleen
It’s in a private GitHub, since a couple of items are licenced (one of the fonts and the Machform software). But I’m thinking of spinning my customised Machform off into a separate private repo and removing font so I can make this framework public. It does rely on Sass and Compass quite heavily too though.
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Re: Textpattern would be more popular if??
I’ve taken the practice of extending Hive and overridden the main txp-header borders and shadows to use rgba and black+alpha instead of explicit colors. After which changing background becomes very easy job;
/*!
* Inherited header coloring.
*
* The main header's border and highlight
* colors are inherit from the main background.
*
* The appearance of the bar can be changed
* by altering the background gradient.
*/
.rgba .txp-header
{
border: 0;
box-shadow:
0 0.15385em 0.23077em rgba(0,0,0,0.15),
inset 0 -1px 0 rgba(0,0,0,0.1),
inset 0 1px 0 rgba(255,255,255,0.15);
}
.rgba .dropdown
{
border-right: 1px solid rgba(0,0,0,0.1);
}
.rgba .dropdown:first-child
{
border-left: 1px solid rgba(0,0,0,0.1);
}
.dropdown a.dropdown-toggle
{
text-shadow: 1px 1px 0 rgba(255,255,255,0.1);
color: inherit;
}
.rgba .dropdown-menu
{
border: 1px solid rgba(0,0,0,0.15);
}After that you can change the background color to anything with a single line of a definition:
/**
* Hollyhock Pink.
*/
.pink .txp-header
{
background-image: linear-gradient(#e8b2d3, #db95b7);
}I then add a class representing the color variation to the body element. You can find the full source code to all that from ModernizeTextpattern repository.
The ending results look something like this.
Last edited by Gocom (2013-02-14 22:16:38)
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Re: Textpattern would be more popular if??
I still think ease of Templating would help make textpattern more popular.
Businesses have been built around the fact that template changing is easy in Wordpress and Joomla… the more exposure the better.
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Re: Textpattern would be more popular if??
Gocom wrote:
must be doing something wrong…I’ve taken the practice of extending Hive and overridden the main txp-header borders and shadows to use rgba and black+alpha instead of explicit colors. After which changing background becomes very easy job;
- installed the plugin and activated it
- uploaded your files to rah_modernize in my web root
- hacked your css into hive.
Don’t see any change at all.
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Re: Textpattern would be more popular if??
mrdale wrote:
installed the plugin and activated it
Those plugin package files are from somewhere last year, and probably do not work — I think you should be getting JavaScript errors at least, or nothing at all. You would have to compile the project using MassPlugCompiler or load it some other way, I suppose, if you wish to use its own loader.
hacked your css into hive.
There is no hacking involved if the plugin is installed. The plugin itself is ‘just’ a CSS/JavaScript loader that injects the included files to the admin-side pages. Outside of loading, it also injects some extra options to the head in from of an JavaScript object used by some of the scripts.
Basically the repository is just collection of CSS and JavaScript snippet experiment and the included plugin is a loader, providing nothing essential. Alternatively the client side code can be used as is in a theme or so, given that the configuration objects are populated some other ways if the snippet in particular requires any. Currently only profile.js needs configuration values (and the loader as such).
Don’t see any change at all.
The plugin itself doesn’t exactly manage the color variations and change the color, but contains that above CSS and other scripts.
One of the included scripts /js/header-variations.js looks for rah_modernize object. If it’s finds a ‘color’ key from it, it injects it to body element’s class attribute, enabling the color changing. The loader (plugin) populates that value with a Textpattern’s preference string named rah_modernize_color_variation, but doesn’t offer a way to set or change it.
All the header variation related CSS is in inherit-header.css, and header-variations.css contains some example colors. It’s the same code as above. The CSS doesn’t contain any vendor prefixes, so it may not override styles for every web browser.
Last edited by Gocom (2013-02-17 22:23:24)
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Re: Textpattern would be more popular if??
Thanks Jukka,
Much more involved than I really want to mess with just to change the Yellow part of the theme. I’ll wait till the process gets streamline or someone else finds yellow mildly irritating.
Hive is awesome BTW, I’ve hacked it quite a lot to work nicely with my plugins.
Last edited by mrdale (2013-02-17 23:50:29)
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Re: Textpattern would be more popular if??
dla wrote:
Do you think that textpattern would be used by more people if it had better documentation?
The state of Txp docs is an issue often raised over the years—probably by no one more than me (though I’ve pretty much stopped spitting in the wind). Bloke gave the right and common response. Docs are public. If anybody finds them lacking—and they certainly are—start writing! Documentation doesn’t write itself, and nobody is getting paid to sit around and do it.
A couple of other notions made in this thread so far I’d like to respond to…
- The forum has great help but it’s not in the docs…
- Txp just needs a major magazine cover breakthrough…
- Txp needs someone dedicated to the PR…
To the first comment… I’ve pointed this out countless numbers of times and tried to rally some process for curating the good stuff in the wiki, but bad (bulletin board) habits are sure hard to break, aren’t they?
To the second comment… Txp has had coverage. Many times! It just can’t seem to maintain the exposure. Smashing Magazine has given at least two big nods to this project to my memory; the last time being to our very own magazine, TXP! This project isn’t lacking exposure, or platforms, or mediums for content, it’s lacking writers to cover it, from docs to web content to marketing! Content producers! One or two people can’t do it all, especially for free. All this talk about books, whether print or ebook, is well and fine, but books don’t write themselves either, and frankly they are a lot harder to produce if you have to run through a publisher. Textpattern has it’s own magazine—its own marketing channel, for pete’s sake. You want to help give Txp exposure? Write for TXP and promote the articles you write!
To the third… Yes! It definitely does. Because as years of history have shown, relying on the good merits of the community simply does not get the PR job done. Hell, it’s been a struggle to get veterans to wake up to social media and make a tweet once in a while, let alone do real content marketing as a brand.
What does this all come down to, really? Money! And I’m not talking about x-mas donations (nice as they are), but a real revenue model—year round. Look at every other CMS project out there that has any reasonable amount of success and what does it have that Txp doesn’t? A revenue model! People are getting paid. And when people get paid, shit gets done on a regular and timely basis.
So, answering the question this thread started with: “Textpattern would be more popular if??” It had money to pay people to make it more popular.
The real question, then, is how does Txp make money? Crowds always go where the money is.
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True words Destry. I’d love nothing better than to sideline client work and build Textpattern full time, kind of like the Acquia (Drupal) and Automattic (WordPress) model. We could build an awesome CMS between us.
In reality, Textpattern is a hobby project, although one I enjoy contributing to immensely (sometimes when I really should be doing paid work instead, but I have a good boss). Probably always will be a hobby unless any of you has a lump of cash hanging around they don’t want!
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