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#13 2012-06-04 13:40:34

phiw13
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Re: r3798, r3809, r3817: Don't Panic

Gocom wrote:

That type Pages like interface could be good. Other option would be just a simple table with list of section (without forms) and then a separate editing page — like with Articles. The simplest change, collapsing sections could be great too.

I like the idea of a Pages like layout for Sections. And it would be consistent with the other panes under the Presentation tab. The two step (pages) layout as is used under the Content tab (not so much Articles, rather Images or Files),… , maybe. I’m not crazy of a collapsible effect – I used to have a plugin installed that did that, it was only marginally better than the current display.


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#14 2012-06-05 10:14:29

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Re: r3798, r3809, r3817: Don't Panic

philwareham wrote:

So you mean list of all sections in column on right hand side, section options on left column? Bit like styles page layout? It depends how far stef wants to rewrite the php really, I know he plans further work on prefs section so maybe he’s willing to rework sections too.

No, I meant something more like “files”, which would also make it possible to do “with selected” stuff for selected sections.

Currently TXP doesn’t just show the section names; it load entire edit forms for ALL sections on a single page. That doesn’t scale very well. I personally don’t maintain any website that suffers from this, but I’ve helped out on a few where the amount of sections caused the sections tag to take a long time to display. Just using CSS to collapse the list of sections wouldn’t solve that.

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#15 2012-06-05 12:11:12

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Re: r3798, r3809, r3817: Don't Panic

I’ll have to try out a few layout and see which one works best. Stef is away until next week but I can try a couple of mockups in the meantime.

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#16 2012-06-05 18:11:02

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Re: r3798, r3809, r3817: Don't Panic

No, I meant something more like “files”, which would also make it possible to do “with selected” stuff for selected sections.

Agreed, this would be great.

I also like the idea of bundling a plugin that provides the current Sections tab’s multi-editing capabilities. Actually I’m very partial to the idea of bundling a core set of plugins, some of which are disabled by default (one example: Markdown plugin). But at least they’d be there for people to use out of the box.

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#17 2012-06-06 06:36:14

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Re: r3798, r3809, r3817: Don't Panic

Fwiw, I’ve uploaded an updated Sandspace theme: See this thread for discussion, bug reports and feedback.


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#18 2012-06-06 06:42:55

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Re: r3798, r3809, r3817: Don't Panic

Small bug report (if you hadn’t noticed yet):
Using the Remora:

The navigation bar doesn’t touch the bottom of its container; there is a few pixel gap at the bottom.
#nav { /*… */ display: inline-block; }

#nav is set to inline block, and thus rest on the baseline of the parent element (that is the default, correct behavior) leaving some space for descenders.

fix: add vertical-align bottom to #nav.

*****

I kinda laughed at this:

#nav {
display: -moz-inline-box;
-moz-box-orient: vertical;

Do you still intend to support Firefox 2 ? Firefox 3.0 supports inline-block correctly…

(edit: grammar)

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#19 2012-06-06 08:48:04

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Re: r3798, r3809, r3817: Don't Panic

Please report (theme only) issues in my GitHub fork. Newer versions of the CSS will be available within the admin-improvements-phase2 branch.

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#20 2012-06-06 12:57:34

Gocom
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Re: r3798, r3809, r3817: Don't Panic

philwareham wrote:

Please report (theme only) issues in my GitHub fork. Newer versions of the CSS will be available within the admin-improvements-phase2 branch.

Phil, you have issues turned off, making that bit hard to do.

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#21 2012-06-06 13:01:55

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Re: r3798, r3809, r3817: Don't Panic

Gocom wrote:

Phil, you have issues turned off, making that bit hard to do.

Ha ha, oh yeah. The lack of issues issue is no longer an issue (I’ve turned issues on now).

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#22 2012-06-07 17:29:58

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Re: r3798, r3809, r3817: Don't Panic

OK, I’ve done a (very quick) mockup of two options suggested for sections page layout…

mockup 1

mockup 2

This is also the third option of taking the first example above and making each panel collapsible (I’ve not mockup that up as it would involve some CSS additions – but I’m sure you can image how it could work).

Which do you feel would be the better option? I think if option 2 was popular I’d have to work a bit more on the presentation of it.

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#23 2012-06-08 06:34:24

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Re: r3798, r3809, r3817: Don't Panic

colak wrote:

philwareham wrote:

OK, I’ve done a (very quick) mockup of two options suggested for sections page layout…
mockup 1

sexy!


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#24 2012-06-08 06:50:51

phiw13
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Re: r3798, r3809, r3817: Don't Panic

philwareham wrote:

OK, I’ve done a (very quick) mockup of two options suggested for sections page layout…

mockup 1 isn’t much different from the current layout. Ok, it might make it easier to add a collapsible toggle (as noted, I’m not really fond of that idea). It won’t address the performance issue raised by Ruud.

mockup 2 is already better and would only load one edit form at the time (perf !) – it is also easier on the eyes, an overview of all sections on the right (that stays in view), the edit form on the left.

Have you consider option 3 that has been mentioned, a workflow similar to the Content > Files pane (or > Images)? That is: main pane would be table with a summary of settings (one column containing an edit link, right most column with a destroy button), sub pane with the edit form for a given section. That subpane would be just an h2 with the inner table of the current edit form.

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