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[textile] cite attribute
We seem to have the following attributes to work with:
- (class)
- (#id)
- {style}
- [language]
But for people using a fair amount of q and blockquote, the cite="" attribute is relatively important too.
Borrowing from the parenthetical pattern, couldn’t we create one for cite attributes like [#cite].
Then instead of having to use <blockquote cite="url">, it could simply be bq[#cite]. or bq[#cite].. .
I.e., bq[http://textpattern.com]. First sentence... would produce…
<blockquote cite="http://textpattern.com">
<p>First sentence...</p>
</blockquote>Etc.
On a related note, p elements are not required inside blockquotes in HTML5, as noted in third example here. Theoretically asking, would it be possible to not automatically include p elements in blockquotes, specifically? This isn’t a big deal, but I’m just curious. Granted, this favors HTML5, then, over XHTML, but that’s where things are going anyway so it would reasonably be the default, I would think.
Ed. — Never mind, while that might be true, we would need p elements for bq.. so I think it’s fine as is for default.
Last edited by Destry (2012-02-13 14:29:17)
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Re: [textile] cite attribute
Destry wrote:
couldn’t we create one for cite attributes like
[#cite].
That syntax has been taken for automatic creation of numbered notelists, similar to Wikipedia’s ‘References’ section (a feature you requested, iirc).
I don’t know about the extended blockquote/cite syntax you specified. That might be a nice addition unless someone can find a neat way to do it already.
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What about…
- {#cite}
- /cite/
- |cite|
- \cite\
- ‘cite’
- =cite=
- §cite§ (actually a key on the azerty board)
- $cite$
I’d be happy with any of those, but 'cite' would probably be the nicest looking…
bq'http://textpattern.com'. First para...
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RTFM ;)
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Nice.
So we seriously need an up-do-date and consumer-friendly reference, then.
I’ve got the 2 cents on that notion, wet, so hang-tight for TXP issue 1.
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wet wrote:
RTFM
Holy smokes. Never spotted that lurking in there. Terrific.
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Sorry to sound negative, but I still don’t know why they bother with that attribute on <blockquote> and <q> tags. It’s not like it provides a clickable link or anything, so unless you’re scouring the source code it’s invisible to the end user.
Last edited by philwareham (2012-02-13 19:27:51)
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Unless you’re a blind end user. It’s a machine-readable attribute, and has value for:
- screenreaders (thus accessibility)
- search engine indexing
- retrieval via DOM Scripting
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for q situations:
[The browser agent] … should be able to jump to the [cited source] from the [formatted q output].
and for blockquote situation:
The browser should, somehow, allow you to [follow the cited URL]. The simplest way on graphical browsers would be to provide a context-sensitive menu option (in english: right clicking on the blockquote should allow you to jump to the cited document).
So, maybe in the future it will be more than just for people using screen readers.
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OK, I’ve done some investigating and JAWS can read/recite the URL. Never considered that.
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